Egyptian energy SOLVED?!?

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  1. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    That's it.
    I'm out.
    Conflation like this has pushed me past my "Tolerance of Stupid" quota for the month.
     
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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    That's not a fluorescent light between the horns - it's a sun disc. A number of Egyptian gods who were mythologically related to the sun were depicted with sun discs just like the one in this picture. For example, one of the prominent gods was Hathor, who was often depicted as a bull with a sun disc, just like that. Another one is the god Amun, with his variant Amun-Ra. Ra, of course, was the sun god. And Hathor came to be associated with Ra, too. From my brief reading on this, Hathor was either a daughter of Ra, or perhaps his mother. These are by no means the only gods to be depicted as bulls with sun discs, either.
     
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  5. Bob-a-builder Registered Senior Member

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    Yes. I agree that is the accepted viewpoint historically. If however a Nikola Tesal could have built a Wardenclyyfe type tower that could light a flourescent bulb a kilometre away, then perhaps these people portrayed as gods were merely humans with flashlights mounted upon their heads.

    For the sake of discussion (not that I expect that); pretend Egyptians had the ability to blow glass into a sphere (they did) and they also had mercury gas (they have found liquid mercury under pyramids). Then they would only require a power source.

    Pretend for an instant that you were a king or pharaoh back then and you learned of a way to make a sphere glow or light up.

    Would you not attempt to use it to show your magic powers and fool all the natives into believing you were a god?

    If so. What kind of god would they call you? Would they call you a sun god because you had a frigging light bulb upon your head?

    I do not believe they were truly gods. I was suggesting that if they did have such a Tesla Tower power source, light bulb hats almost make more rational sense than the current Christian dogma (and all ancient archeology is designed to fit theology).

    So without true evidence Saqqara has been deemed inferior and as a cow burial grounds. Without a shred of evidence.

    Consider that perhaps they really did use light-bulbs upon their heads to scare the natives.

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    You might get an image similar to above.

    People might bring them gifts for just having glowing hats.

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    For the sake of argument. Imagine that the snake they most often use in conjunction with these "symbols"/light-bulbs is actually the snakelike appearance we witness in things like Crookes tube, etc.

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    To a native scared of their gods "light bulbs", this might resemble a snake.

    Now the next picture a sciforums member has already explained as a giant zucchini. Perhaps it was.


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    Of course these are giant Zucchinis. Makes perfect rational sense?

    There were many similar carvings.

    Here is another.

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    Now the current theory has been put forth without any evidence except claims of lack of their technology.

    Everyone who denies they may have had light bulbs could be biased based upon religious doctrines and feelings of superiority.

    They had glass spheres and access to some of the noble gases.

    There was a story of a sphere that was found in Egypt that when broken a silver metallic liquid seeped out and drained into the floor. If they did have lightbulbs then mercury would be the best choice. Our fluorescent lights today contain mercury gas.

    However if they only had a power source that could broadcast Tesla type energy at least a short distance... Hmmmm.

    I understand the current interpretations of Egyptian gods are that the hats imply their status, but if they could mount light-bulbs upon their hats, then we would need to start looking at Hieroglyphics a bit differently. We would need to ditch the Christian Dogma that states mankind has only existed 5000 years.

    If bulls were used to feed the yeast in this Hypothesis, then maybe they would also portray them with light-bulbs. I refuse to think a culture advanced enough to move 100 ton rocks would worship cows.. but maybe?

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    The natives would see hundreds upon hundreds of these bulls led into the pyramids never to return if this hypothesis is true. If bull carcasses were used to feed the yeast in this pressurized quartz, they would be feeding yeast mixtures with bulls daily. There were 24 such granite boxes at Saqqara.

    They would need a lot of bulls/cows.

    So to an ignorant native observer, they might document that the king really loved his cows.

    They might even give them godlike attributes also. This was pre-internet and maybe pre-library.

    This hypothesis appears to make some sense. I realize it is not standard christianesque beliefs, but it makes more sense than that they worshiped bulls.

    So a pharaoh would just apear now and again to wear alight bulb and shock the natives. Awe them with his light bulbs.

    The notion of granite (quartz) boxes being used as pressurized anything makes more sense than worshiping bulls despite what Christians believe.

    For the sake of discussion (I am not confident that will occur here). Imagine that they did have Tesla projected energy and a light bulb technology.

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    This row of Sphinxes could (for sake of discussion) be streetlights. Just place a round sphere (bulb) in every paw.

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    If possible (for discussion), this would make Egypt look a lot like Las Vegas at night.

    NOTE: Egypt is often referred top as "The light of the world" in ancient texts.

    Anyways... I'm not even sure why I am bothering here. Perhaps I was excited to get a somewhat serious response, albeit I am unsure.

    But we would need to revamp the entire way Christians view history.

    We would need to reconsider that perhaps the Egyptians were actually wearing the hats they were depicted with all the time.

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    Example: The symbolism of the above Hieroglyph might mean something to a Christian biographer, but it does not mean they are interpreting based on correct facts.

    Could they be referring to an indoor light in this hieroglyph and not the sun?

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    This next is interpreted as "The sun rises over the circular mound of creation as goddesses pour out the primeval waters around it"

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    If we considered they may have had a tiny bit of advanced knowledge for their time, we could look at hieroglyphs like above in a different light ("Light" - get it? Light (narf) )


    Are all spheres portrayed in Hieroglyphs be such light? The only argument against it is our beliefs that they were too inept back then. Our belief should not dictate science

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    It would change the way we look at "spheres"/"snakes"/"ankhs"/"Sarcophagi", etc. We would need to update history and challenge Christian dogma.

    This topic is not unique to me. I just stumbled upon it and it makes perfect sense. Despite the naysayers prevalent here.

    This is just one channel on the bandwagon.. It will grow as people learn and accept that Dogma does not necessarily mean truth.

    Anyways.. I have at least given Dwyddry a lot of new ammunition. Have fun.

     
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  7. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Well of course! We are all fully paid-up members of the Egypt Exploration Society and our sole purpose is to propagate Judaeo-Christian mythology.

    We are all members of the Illuminati, most are Masons and some of us are Lizard People. We convene regularly at the Bilderberg Group meetings, to further our plans for global mind control.
     
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  8. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Hooray! Nikola Tesla makes his appearance at last! At 50 crank points for that alone.

    By the way, yeast cannot feed on fat. It needs sugars.

    So we can add that to the lengthening litany of scientific howlers in your theory.
     
  9. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Bob-a-builder:

    I'll probably reply in more detail later, but for now consider this: we don't necessarily have to do a lot of interpretation of some of the images you've posted, because you can see that there are hieroglyphs next to the paintings. Those are writing, and some of that writing explains what is in the images. When it does, there's no need to guess. We can just read off what the ancient Egyptians wanted the viewers of the images to know.
     
  10. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    I can't blame you. I find myself wondering if this is a white coats job. The associations being made seem to be getting wilder and wilder.
     
  11. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Damnit you know you are not to say stuff like this even in jest lest you blow our cover

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  12. Bob-a-builder Registered Senior Member

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    Furthermore,

    Rational minds can see this would make a lot of other things makes sense.


    Example: As discussed in earlier posts most of the granite boxes in and around Egypt seemed to show damage to their corners, but some of these granite boxes seem to have outright exploded. This would make sense if they were indeed pressure cooker type objects fed with pressure. If you put too much pressure into any object and it explodes the explosions could be quite great.

    Inside the kings chamber at Giza there is a "sarcophagus" granite box. No mummies or art or even hieroglyphics are contained in that pyramid.

    Here is a photo of the red (quartz containing) granite found inside the great pyramid.

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    Note that it has a damaged corner. This is a much smaller version of the 24 boxes found at Saqqara Step Pyramid we "discussed" above. This one weighs only about 3.5 tons.

    Here is another view.

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    Notice the box and also the heavy slabs of stone used in the roof section. These weigh up to 70 tons each and were quarried granite from 500 miles away. Most of the largest constructions of our time have been related to power generation. These blokes did it merely to bury cows according to sciforum consensus (Egyptology stance).

    Measurements have shown that the Kings chamber appears to have had at least one interior explosion. The granite walls have been shifted at least 1 inch outwards. Current christian dogma states this was probably due to earthquakes. The problem with the Earthquake hypothesis is that if an earthquake affected the "kings chamber" by movement of 1 inch, the same earthquake did not seem to register elsewhere. For example the pathway leading down below the pyramid seems to be unaffected and pretty much a straight line all the way down.

    If the hypothesis put forth by the Ancient Architect Channel at the end of my last posting (and entire topic here) is correct. They these are pressure cookers that would explode once in a while.

    So lets look at the previously unexplained roof of the kings chamber. It has 5 levels of very low ceiling rooms followed by a cantilever type construction above all of them. As pictured below.

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    The only explanation given by your christian explanations are that these extra levels of roof were place to keep the pressure off of the kings chamber itself.

    I am suggesting (I thought of this after writing last post prior to bed) that these make more sense if they are designed to contain an explosion.

    Here is a picture from Between the layers. Note that they are all flat on the top but unfinished on the topsides (floors of levels).

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    So why would the bottoms of each floor be flat? Unless "designed" (OMG I am suggesting these builders had thought) to diffuse an explosion from below.

    For if current christian/egyptology/science view was correct and these were used to alleviate pressure from the kings chamber, then the lower queens chamber would make even less sense.

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    This room is much lower inside the pyramid and only has a cantilever roof to hold the weights from above. So the 5 levels called "relief chambers" (by Egyptology, but they meant it relief from pressures from above) could be more easily explained as efforts to avoid high level explosions from doing too much damage to the interior.

    No sarcophagi had been found in the great pyramid. This was merely labeled a "queens chamber" because of assumptions. The basis for arguments from most here. They assume. Not a very science way to do things.

    Notice the above "Air shafts". These are made with 3 watertight rocks in an odd design all the way up. They oddly do not go to air so would make poor air shafts if that is your christian stance.

    Here is a picture of shafts in queens chamber. I am about to suggest (suggestion from Christopher Dunn) they contained chemicals. First lets look at the shafts construction.

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    Early explorers complained of an odd odor from this room. Gypsum and salt were also out of place. Salt was found in the Queens chamber up to an inch thick.

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    Note that neither of these "air shafts" vented to the outside.

    Christopher Dunn (Rocket Scientist Engineer who examines this as a hobby) has suggested that if one shaft contained dilute hydrochloric acid coming in one air shaft. This would explain the interactions use to create gypsum. If the other shaft was filled with zinc chloride then the interactions of the two would create hydrogen. Hydrogen and Limestone would explain the large quantities of salt present.

    These shafts had been explored and found blocked by

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    These wall has been drilled through and these metal objects which seem to have chemical wear could be "electrodes" as proposed by Christopher Dunn.
    Perhaps as a mechanism to test if chemicals needed replenishing.

    Now IF the granite boxes inside the pyramids were in the habit of exploding, then they would need ways to replace them often. This would seem to be a major flaw in any of these theories. Why would you surround a single box with a pyramid if those boxes were expected to explode now and then.

    It appears there may be a secret "workplace environment: hidden from explorers and us. If you wish to see how they moved granite boxes in and out of this room watch the following video. It shows there is a "possible" (it certainly is) secret entrance near the granite box and it is of perfect size to slide a box in and out.




    So I would surmise that if this hypothesis is true, then behind the block emphasized in above video would be a "workplace" room in the next room. It would have a bracing mechanism and pathways to get new granite boxes both in and out of the pyramid.


    I understand why sciforums Christians are angry at my suggestion mankind might be older than 5000 years. I also think heaven is a ridiculous concept. You need bad to have good. You need broccoli to enjoy ice cream. Obviously having a place where only good or only bad can happen is ridiculous (heaven/hell is bunk).

    Anyways. After I had written the above reply to Randi (not randy. I think Ive spelled wrong) I headed to bed and watched a few more videos on this and the relieving chambers found above the kings chamber make a lot of sense. If you were to over-pressure the hot water heater in your home for example; the explosion could take out your home and a neighbors or launch the length of a football field. If your roof was made from 5 levels of 70 ton blocks and your house was surrounded by many meters of piled stone. The explosion might contain itself a little better. Perhaps we witness such damage in other pyramids. They learned as they went.

    This is for anyone who might read it with an interest. Despite the Christian dogma prevalent in sciforums, no evidence suggests these were ever tombs.

    Again. It was this video that sparked this topic. Thousands of researchers unimpeded by Christian notions of a 5000 year old mankind are activelly pursuing this type of hypothesis.

    Feel free to believe in Heaven/Hell and think of our ancestors as primitive without a single shred of evidence to back your claims. The ONLY evidence we have for these not generating power is the suggestion they had nothing to power. The only argument about them having lack of stuff to power is the lack of power plants (or batteries) to power them.

    This seems to me as a valid "Alternative Theory" but I grasp the Christian Dogma here.

    The video that brought this topic here.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKAf5h3atXI

     
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  13. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    About those aubergines........

    I've had a moment to look this up and actually they are not aubergines

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    , in spite of the superficial resemblance. They represent creation of the world as a bubble of air from a lotus flower, with Atum the snake god. Details here, from "Ancient Aliens Debunked" https://www.ancientaliensdebunked.com/egyptian-light-bulb:
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    The Egyptians believed that before anything else existed there was a vast primordial sea of nothingness.[8]

    They believed that the first thing to emerge from this sea was a lotus flower.[9][10]

    This is probably because the lotus closes at night and sinks underwater. In the morning it re-emerges and blooms again.

    It was believed that lotus flower then gave birth to the first God who was often associated with the sun.[11] This relief was done after the God Atum was merged with the sun God Ra and thus became Atum-Re.

    Atum the God who created everything else after this is actually represented as a snake.[12]

    And yes it is a snake in these reliefs not light bulb filaments, you can actually see the eyes and other elements of a snake if you look closely.

    This is pretty standard Egyptian mythology, that the lotus flower came forth first then the first God Atum – who was represented as a snake.

    Well what about the bubble surrounding it?

    I will quote an expert directly on this point:

    “Despite the variety of deities, the Egyptians conceived the origin of the world as singular. Only one god (Atum) was responsible for the emergence of the universe as a bubble of air in the vast, limitless, inert ocean and everlasting darkness of the undifferentiated primordial waters (Nun) that existed before creation.”

    In other words the universe came forth from the lotus in a bubble of air.[13]

    There are other elements of this picture that back this interpretation up.

    The Universe bubble is here being supported or raised up by the Goddess Nun.[14] Nun is the primordial waters and technically it is she that raises up the lotus, Atum, and everything else.[15]

    This pose of outstretched hands is one of the more common motifs for Nun and she raises and supports the universe from nothingness.[16]

    In some versions of this story the sun God represented in these scenes is Khepri who was represented as a scarab Beetle. Atum and Kephri sort of traded off being aspects of RA in Egyptian mythology.

    So, in essence, you have Nun the primordial waters lifting up the solar barge of Ra for its first journey accross the sky.

    And this explains why similar poses are seen in the creation account at Dendara. They are also depicting Nun raising up the universe out of her waters.
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    But apparently this batshit stuff is pretty well-known. It is Bob's unique contribution to it to have proposed a power source based on unknown fat-eating yeasts, creating pressure inside these chests and thus making piezo-electricity by an impossible process, conducted through solid rock in defiance of physics and chemistry and somehow lighting up light bulbs, with a filament shaped so much like a snake that it actually has eyes. I don't know whether he has any evidence for the vacuum compressor needed to make light bulbs as well, but perhaps he is working on that.

    Personally I think he'd have been better off proposing a power source based on fermenting actual bat shit. That would at least have generated methane.
     
  14. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    You can brew beer in a clay jar. Also, royal Egyptians believed in elaborate tombs. They needed not just their own bodies in the afterlife, but servants and domestic animals.

    It's not your explanation that needs explaining, it's your need for an explanation in the first place.
     
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