Evidence of Paranormal Psi influence -Trump

Discussion in 'Parapsychology' started by Quantum Quack, Jun 13, 2017.

  1. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    Have you answered the question I asked? Are you an American voter?

    And, really... Try to get three quarters of the voters to blow their noses at the same time, and good luck with that amendment.
     
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  3. river

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    Your meaning , be plain .
     
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  5. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    well... if an extortionist wished to demonstrate the capacity to inflict harm, the Cuba incident would be a good example of the threat possible.
     
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  7. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    I"m sorry, I'm done with this halfwit, quack indeed, nd this thread. I guess I'll get a bit of solace from putting the damned fool that can't answer detect questions without trying to misdirect the topic.

    As I said earlier, piss off.
     
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  8. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    I was. Read American history, but don't watch TV.

    I'm done with this thread. Y'all have fun, if that's what you call it...
     
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  9. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    A doctor who evaluated American and Canadian diplomats working in Cuba diagnosed them with conditions as serious as mild traumatic brain injury and damage to the central nervous system, CBS News said on Wednesday, citing medical records it reviewed.
    The diplomats had complained of symptoms including hearing loss, nausea, headaches and balance disorders after what were described as “incidents” that began affecting them in Havana beginning in late 2016, CBS News said.

    src: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ve-damage-to-diplomats-cbs-news-idUSKCN1B322P
    now ask yourself the question about Mc Cains Brain tumors and how and when they manifested. ( critical interview of FBI Comey) and recall that he had frustrated Trumps Actions against The Obama care legislation.
     
  10. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    ok - I see the problem now, other than your lack of knowledge on the subject: you are not being specific.

    one cannot present a position unless you're specific. So your reply about extortionist is nonsensical in light of the specific question you asked being "what's your take on the situation at the USA Embassy and staff in Cuba."

    you do realise that there has been "staff" in Cuba for a very long time, that the embassy has been there housing "the United States Interests Section in Havana between 1977 and 2015", that the US Military has a base there, and that relations were restored with Cuba on July 20, 2015, right?

    so that makes your question nonsensical as it's not about a specific point

    at which point in the history of the Embassy should I refer to with such vague statements? just randomly pick a date?
    moreover, what "staff" are you referring to? Embassy staff? Military? what?

    lastly: what threat are you talking about?
    if you're referring to your delusional comments about "detecting excessive psi influence", then I would remind you that just because you believe something doesn't mean it's true or even real.
     
  11. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    uhm.... this point mentioned in post #26

    Sept, 2017

    Although the State Department has described "incidents" and generally avoided deeming them attacks, officials said the US now has determined there were "specific attacks" on American personnel in Cuba. Mr Tillerson made the decision to draw down the embassy overnight local time while traveling to ..

    src: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-30/us-to-cut-cuba-embassy-staff-over-diplomat-attacks/9003166
    Look .....the list of inexplicable issues presenting recently is quite large.

    For example the issue of returned soldiers suicide rates being so inexplicably high...could also be associated...( this issue is also one for Australian troops as well...) Primarily those who have returned from Afghanistan whether engaged in combat roles or not...

    I have a friends son who did two tours and all he could think about was ending his life.
    (wonders if the Russian soldiers suffer the same suicide rates)
     
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  12. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    so now you want me to read minds?
    perhaps actually counting or reading the numbers of the links in that reply will help you understand ...
    by all means, explain the correlation and show causation

    I've not had a good laugh in ages!

    the problem is this: just because you believe there to be a connection doesn't mean there is one
    considering your moniker, I would have thought this was obvious. I can explain it further, but ...

    I would also remind you that I made a clear statement that should demonstrate more than just my position:
     
  13. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    so is the recently presenting list of inexplicable surges in pseudoscience, and not just flat earthers, but also in religious ID or fanaticism

    what is your point?


    so, a traumatic event has no bearing on the psyche of a soldier?
    I, personally, know of more than 25 people who suffer from PTSD and none of them were combatants anywhere. You do know that firefighters, EMS, ER Docs, Nurses and traumatized kids (and more) can suffer from PTSD or depression from traumatic events, right?
    I mean, I could send you a sh*tload of studies showing where traumatic events can cause depression and increase the likelyhood of suicidal ideation, but is that really necesarry?

    back to the point: the issue of "returned soldiers suicide rates being so inexplicably high" can be for any number of reasons starting with shared experienced trauma. this can be demonstrated by the following question: How does helping with the excavation of a mass grave make a soldier feel?

    there is no reason to ASSume that because you believe in [x] that suicidal ideation is somehow proof of your belief
    you simply choose to accept this as proof enough for you

    I suggest therapy

    yes
     
  14. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    link ... or do you expect us all to take your word for it?
     
  15. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    never said it was proof... I wrote to the effect that the inexplicable and incredibly high suicide rates of returning soldiers ( combatant or other wise) was an example of the many inexplicable issue s facing the world at present.

    ever wondered why the incredible increase globally in religious ID and fanaticism?
     
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    it's that tingling sensation when the hair on the back of your neck stand up. that's when you know someone is sending you good or bad mojo. usually bad. you know, that's people for you.
     
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  17. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Ok , I'll try another approach...
    In 2015 it was shown scientifically that Quantum entanglement was a reality. Finally providing unambiguous experimental results free of any known loop hole logic that information communication can indeed avoid distance in 4 d space.
    Quantum entanglement has been known about since the mid 1900's. Development of the technology has been ongoing since. Experiments with out doubt would include those by the worlds major military powers. Many advances would have been made.

    Question ( rhetorical): What isn't in some way entangled? ( answer : everything is in a state of entanglement)

    It can therefore be proposed ( but not yet proven ) that the mechanism behind so called psychic communication of any sort is via quantum entanglement and is a natural, mostly benign state of our everyday lives.

    Conspiracy theory (obvious):
    That some entity whether state, nation or individual has learned how to weaponize quantum entanglement in humans and although not completely efficient has applied intimidation/extortion upon various nations, states and individuals.


    There have been many unexplained incidents that would lead to encouraging and validating the theorists POV.

    The ultimate threat to any human being is being robbed of his freedom of thought and belief or suffer the consequences of resistance.

    The events that have taken place in Cuba recently are highly indicative of one form of weaponize-ation of quantum entanglement . IMO
    ( the effect of resisting the influence exerted from the "inside out" and not "outside in"- forcing psychosis, hallucinations, auditory, brain tumors and balance problems and in the case of our soldiers a death wish)

    you may recall Hillary Clinton's stumble at the 9/11 memorial service....as a presidential candidate... and Trumps subsequent extraordinary bad taste tweet including a golf ball hitting her in the back...

     
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  18. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    and I have a good idea of who and where... but will keep that to myself for the moment. ( and it is not Trump)
     
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  19. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    sure thing! - just as soon as you show a link to support your own claims about "detecting excessive psi influence" in your post

    thanks
    then why present it as an example?

    that is nonsensical
    there are always high rates of suicidal ideation in returning soldiers who've served in harsh, hostile or situations where traumatic events take place
    there doesn't have to be combat, either, as you can see by the volume of data on it

    yes
    but I've also seen an increase in fanaticism or religion after trauma (or mass casualties) - so does that mean any accident leads straight to jeebus or another similar religion depending on the culture of the person(s) involved?

    if you can't show correlation and causation then you're guessing based upon your own biases and beliefs, which could well be delusional (or other)


    not rhetorical if you can't prove it, eh?
    at best it's an untested claim - at worst it's a false claim. I am going with opinion, though, until proven otherwise
    http://www.auburn.edu/academic/education/reading_genie/Fact-opinion.html

    based upon the exact same criterion - It can also be therefore proposed (but not yet proven) that unicorn farts cause hurricanes due to entanglement

    and again, this is not obvious for the following reasons:
    1- you've shown no statistical evidence
    2- you've shown no correlation
    3- for everything you've mentioned so far, there are far too many mundane ways you can achieve the same result or conclusion, which your own claims (like suicidal ideation in returning soldiers, etc) you've even provided more evidence for than your other entangled psi-poo

    WTF?
    erm... I will list you three books. When you are done reading them, come back here and talk to me again about freedom of thought
    The Decisive Moment by Jonah Lehrer
    The Male Brain by neuropsychiatrist Louann Brizendine.
    The Female Brain by neuropsychiatrist Louann Brizendine.

    Let me know once you've finished reading those.

    no, they're not

    IMHO - you're reaching for anything to justify your belief

    you may also remember that hillary was born in 1947, so she is getting up there in age, making the "stumble" more likely due to age, stress or some other factor


    like I said: everything you've argued is evidence to you is more likely evidence of something else entirely



    if that is the case, here is a test: I have approximately $20K dollars saved up for a nice piece of land to hunt
    contact your "good idea who" people and tell them to use their psi-poo to make me send you (or them) all my cash along with a selfie of me nude with a pink tutu on my head. Then they can send you a JPG of the receipt of funds as well as the selfie and you can validate it by showing the JPG to @
    Dr_Toad , who can verify the picture is me and that I lost my cash

    sounds like an easy test considering they can utilise all their resources for this while knowing the only way to prove they're active (or real) is an irrational crank attempting to spread pseudoscience BS in a fringe thread.

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    here is a thought to consider before you continue:
    perhaps the reason there is a spike in religion, fanaticism and irrational beliefs is because the freedom and volume of the internet and the lack of the typical person's willingness to actually validate a claim or do basic research before accepting it as legit. This not only explains all the irrational spikes but recent studies about culture, peers and beliefs relating to politics, religion, anti-science and pseudoscience also confirm this as more likely than psi-poo!
     
  20. river

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    Anti-science , define what that actually means
     
  21. Truck Captain Stumpy Registered Senior Member

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    people who are typically capable of actually comprehending science but choose to take the anti approach because of peer pressure, religion or some other reason

    this is typical in the anti-global warming advocates
     
  22. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Offer mundane explanation for the Havana embassy incidents then?
    I am sure the FBI, NSA and others would be most interested.

    Believing in quantum entanglement as a reality is not anti-science.
    Placing limitations on it with out evidence is ....

    Do you believe quantum entanglement only happens when we want it to? If so why?
     
  23. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    stupid test....
    You seek to conflate to the absurd.
    If I was so skilled and attempted to do as you ask typically you would have a brain hemorrhage and die or at the very least end up in a psych ward sucking on a Seroquel.
    Mind you ... if you wake up one morning naked with a pink tutu on your head missing your wallet perhaps you'll remember this conversation... hee hee
     

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