Evolution - Yes it DID bloody well happen!

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Adam, Mar 5, 2002.

  1. KalvinB Publicity Whore Registered Senior Member

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    "Note where the world small is used. In the context this is a relative small, and therefore can be replaced with minority. This is dependent on numbers"

    Note to self: Teg cannot comprehend the notion of context, cease use of big words with more than one meaning.

    "In other words you cannot challenge my facts."

    No you deaf twit. You have no facts. <b>MACROEVOLUTION HAS NEVER BEEN OBSERVED OR EVEN SHOWN TO BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE AID OF INTELLIGENCE</b>

    "Unless somehow you've managed to observe and recreate God. Religion hasn't reached a conclusion because it's impossible when it comes to God. God is a malignant tumor that has yet to be cut off. It'll never be proven since the only "proof" available is pure speculation that has no real world backing."

    Apparently you're also are too stupid to understand "religon==evolution" which I've been saying all along.

    PAY ATTENTION! WHY DO YOU KEEP REPEATING MY POINTS? YOU TALK LIKE YODA AND YET APPARENTLY I HAVE JEDI MIND TRICKS.

    Ben
     
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  3. LIGHTBEING Registered Senior Member

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    Good group, I liked there ealier music though, when they collaborated with The Lost Children of Babylon.

    Just a thought, aren't human beings smarter then what we used to be. Is this not a form of evolution? Our brain has evolved.

    So it is my understanding that you are not religious? You are not a creationalist? You are do not believe in evolution. So what do you believe in?

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  5. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    motivation to beleive

    Kalvin B->

    You say tht creationism=evolution.
    I see tht it is imbossible for you to think different and vice versa.
    So I'll put down another thing.

    We "beleive" in evolution, because there are facts lieing all around -> fossils, ancient ice samples, meteorit and othr.

    Why do you beleive in your religion. what makes you to beleive tht there is/was a god tht created all. What things make you to beleive in creatonism?
    (I answered your question about RNA, now's your turn)

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  7. LIGHTBEING Registered Senior Member

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    KB,

    What religion are you?
     
  8. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    some sort of a christian I presume

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  9. LIGHTBEING Registered Senior Member

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    No....he's not!!!!

    If you are, you are also a hypocrite

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  10. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    so what do you think he is

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  11. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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  12. varkas __________ Registered Senior Member

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    kalvinb, you said evolution=religion= a myth. if you believe in god, and you exist, then you're wrong.
    if you believe in evolution, and you exist, you're wrong.
    you didn't evolve from anything, god did not create you.
    do you exist? or how can you exist? because evolution is not religion or religion is not a myth. OR maybe von däniken was right after all... no wait...there were people before the Arrival of däniken's "gods" .

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  13. Xelios We're setting you adrift idiot Registered Senior Member

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    Methinks he's confused

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  14. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    It seems very clear to me that in order to maintain his views, KalvinB simply refuses to read the very nice links posted in this thread. Most christians I have encountered accept evolution. Even the RC Pope does; he released a statement not too long ago saying something like "I don't see how anyone can rationally refute evolution, and our church has to accept this and keep up with the times". Good going Pope-guy.
     
  15. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    RC Pope really has brought evolution (has advanced church) into church, but there are many whih don't like it.
    Pope John Rulz
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  16. Sir. Loone Jesus is Lord! Registered Senior Member

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    No it did not!

    Evolution is only a human 'theory' that is yet to be proven!

    But GOD of Abraham, and Isaac, and of Jacob had alone created the Heavens and the Earth, and "worlds unknown!" But Man is only the created! "Where were you when the Earth was formed?"

    Truth shall stand, even when thou civilizations lies in ruines!

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  17. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    I'm so glad I jumped on the internet between lectures. This just cracks me up.

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  18. Teg Unknown Citizen Registered Senior Member

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    Please state a reason. Sorry I thought I was in a conversation with a thinking individual. Go on throwing ideas out without support; you are adept at that.

    Context in this situation would have small as a relative term. Within the definition of elite words were stated to the effect of small and portion. These are synonymous to "minority" when used in tandem. I understand that you too are a contrary. Sometimes you must relent to save face. Knowing your personality I will expect you to ignore the subject.
    I have already proven this postulate.
    http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
    Every observation we build upon has a human source. We always interpret data. Evolution is no different from any other field of science.
    All these theories about you being mentally handicapped, retarded, or an atheist in theist garb. Akam's Razor: he's just stupid.
     
  19. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    Loone,

    No totally wrong and a classic error for those who do not understand the scientific method.

    Get it straight – Evolution is fact, it has and is happening. What is less well known are all the processes that show how evolution occurred and is occurring. Many of these processes are understood and others are still being investigated. These processes are known as the theories that explain how evolution operates.

    Cris

    In the American vernacular, "theory" often means "imperfect fact" - part of a hierarchy of confidence running downhill from fact to theory to hypothesis to guess. Thus the power of the creationist argument: evolution is "only" a theory and intense debate now rages about many aspects of the theory. If evolution is worse than a fact, and scientists can't even make up their minds about the theory, then what confidence can we have in it?

    Well evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered.

    Moreover, "fact" doesn't mean "absolute certainty"; there ain't no such animal in an exciting and complex world. The final proofs of logic and mathematics flow deductively from stated premises and achieve certainty only because they are NOT about the empirical world. Evolutionists make no claim for perpetual truth, though creationists often do (and then attack us falsely for a style of argument that they themselves favor). In science "fact" can only mean "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional consent." I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms.

    Evolutionists have been very clear about this distinction of fact and theory from the very beginning, if only because we have always acknowledged how far we are from completely understanding the mechanisms (theory) by which evolution (fact) occurred. Darwin continually emphasized the difference between his two great and separate accomplishments: establishing the fact of evolution, and proposing a theory - natural selection - to explain the mechanism of evolution.

    - Stephen J. Gould, "Evolution as Fact and Theory"; Discover, May 1981
     
  20. Xelios We're setting you adrift idiot Registered Senior Member

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    Loone, I'm going to ask you a serious question here ok? I want a serious answer: How do you keep from lauging while you are typing?

    Seriously.
     
  21. Thirty Seven Baron von "Guns N' Roses" Registered Senior Member

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    Re: No it did not!

    And has christianity been proven? I think not!
    And tell me, these characters, god, abe, isaac, and jake, where they humans? (cept god-->i guess

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    ) And if it was documented that they were humans, then where did they come from? Were they molded by holy clay god bought at his local craft shop?
     
  22. Markx Registered Senior Member

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    How old are you? Just crious.

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  23. Teg Unknown Citizen Registered Senior Member

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    Where did you pull that from Markx? Thirty Seven did not post that.
    All legitimate questions. What makes these people so special.
     

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