F-14 vs. F/A-18

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by USS Athens, Aug 6, 2007.

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Which Plane is Superior

  1. F-14 Tomcat

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    51.4%
  2. F/A-18 Hornet

    17 vote(s)
    48.6%
  1. draqon Banned Banned

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    Su 37, baby come get me, get rid of these fake stealth bugs

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  3. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    F-22 also has super manuever capability and vectored thrust. Try again.
    Oh, can the Su-37 reach Mach 1 on military power (i.e. no afterburners)? Didn't think so.

    I'd pit the Raptor up against the 37 even out of stealth mode.
     
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    The standard Russian Pilot is only getting a average of 55 hr. a year, that is barely enough time to maintain take off and landing proficiency, the cobra is a interesting maneuver but I have to wonder what the stress do to the air frame, and how useful it would be in actual combat, great air show stunt, but in a full blown dog fight, ??????
     
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  7. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    There is only one way to end this dispute.

    Iran is flying F14s (thank you puppet of the USA "Shah of Iran" for generously purchasing them).

    The USA is flying F18s.

    The USA needs to declare war on Iran immediately, because I don't know about you folks, but I really need an answer on this pressing topic because honestly i do not think I can live comfortable without knowing the answer.
     
  8. draqon Banned Banned

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    war, just to satisfy your lust to know? selfish.
     
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  10. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    We all know that the f14 is superior though. It needs 50 hours of work after each flight compared to 5-10 of the f18.

    The f14 is the superior money sink.
     
  11. USS Exeter unamerican american Registered Senior Member

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    The raptor has minimal thrust vectoring at about a total of 30 degrees of vectoring. Su-37 has almost twice that much including radar jammers which are cheaper than all the stealthy crap they put on other planes.
     
  12. USS Exeter unamerican american Registered Senior Member

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    The cy-37 is faster than the raptor as well.
     
  13. USS Exeter unamerican american Registered Senior Member

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    the cobra is not just an airshow stunt, it's used to quickly gain a higher angle of attack. The su-37 can perform manoeuvres that if other aircraft attempted them, they would be torn apart.
     
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    The su-47 is my favorite Russian fighter.

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  15. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Unfortunately it is not a fighter - it's an unarmed technology demonstrator - only 1 built AFAIK.
    And never likely to go into production.
     
  16. USS Exeter unamerican american Registered Senior Member

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    I know. sad isn't it.
     
  17. USS Exeter unamerican american Registered Senior Member

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    The mig project 1.44 and the sukhoi PAK FA will though.
     
  18. draqon Banned Banned

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    Su-47...is a prototype, just because it looks cool doesn't mean it behaves good.
     
  19. USS Exeter unamerican american Registered Senior Member

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    The forward swept wing design is very unstable, i know. It takes numourous computers to keep it in the air. Tests have shown that using forward swept wings provives unmatched turning ability with a lower stalling speed.
     
  20. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    1.44 will not go into production - it was a competitor to Berkut (Su-47) and MiG only just managed to scrape enough money together for one (two?) flights and then it went back to being a hangar queen.
    It, too, was never armed or fitted with any systems other than flight-test instrumentation.
    Great pity.

    Which is true of so many current aircraft it's hardly worth commenting on these days - Typhoon, F-16 (nearly), Rafale, Gripen...
    It's an advantage to be unstable - better dogfight capabilities.
    Plus FSW gives innumerable other advantages - more lift for the same area, better (much better) stall characteristics, better transonic flow etc.
     
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    Excuse me, PAK FA will then. It's sceduled to have it's first flight in 2008.

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  22. USS Exeter unamerican american Registered Senior Member

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    Computers are just the beginning, FSW require certain materials to make them or else they would simply tear apart in midair. They were first conceived in WW2 germany by Blohm und Voss project p.209.02 http://www.luft46.com/bv/bvp20902.html
     
  23. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Talking about cool looking airplanes, how about this one:

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    and this one ofcourse:

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    (sorry, off-topic)
     

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