Family violence.

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Holly-May Leslie, Nov 27, 2021.

  1. Holly-May Leslie Registered Member

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    poor education
    poor intellect
    poor emotional intelligence
    poor mental health support services
    poor money people

    the violence was always there
    just waiting for something to light the fuse

    why are they not seeking professional therapy before they become violent ?

    perspective
    subjectivity
    (almost a different subject)

    Rainbow singularity posted this so I decided to start a new thread about it. What do you think generally leads to family violence? What do you think should be done about it? The obvious response would be just get out of there, but the victim might be too attached to their family members to cut them out, and they might not have any alternative place to stay.
     
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  3. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Not every problem has a realistic solution. If you have issues yourself...don't have kids that will be brought up in this type of environment. That's really the only solution but it's not realistic.

    Almost every person who turns out poorly (however you define that) was a kid who came from a bad environment. It's not necessarily about poverty but it is about lack of love, respect, adequate food, stimulation, etc. during the early years.
     
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    generally you need to provide a link & potentially include quotations for some members to fit with the science rules
    but im ok with you copying things & posting etc
    i will inevitably find it(or not lol) & correct it if you have miss copied something.

    there is a vast array of listed causes
    but singular process is
    person A
    lacks self control when they are having a melt down & physically attacks person B to try & fix their emotional internal problems with external violence

    lots
    its a culture legal societal financial educational thing
    it needs to be stitched from all corners of the quilt not just a crime & punishment corner, that solve very little

    financial hostage
    child whom is hostage to the family
    emotional co-dependency
    emotional hostage

    generic lack of emotional development resulting in culturalised mutual stereo typed co-dependency
    you see this in religious groups which stereo typed coupling
    "everyone must be married" type of thing, its quite destructive, but humans are quite a primitive species with a long way to go.
     
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  7. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Some people are just bad people.
    Education and support for the victims so they can get away from the bad person.
     
  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    mental health i would place as #1
    financial troubles with lack of personal coping tools #2
    combined with a lack of personal development

    the bad-people component tends to be environmental
    people raised in very difficult situations of abuse

    the mediator of that range is upper class where the male is a spoilt narcissist type &/or with undiagnosed psychiatric problems
    usually combined with self medication with drugs

    i have had close personal relationships with people with some very shocking childhood &/or with quite serious psychiatric problems
    some undiagnosed

    generically a large amount of family abuse on lower levels of long term issues breeds unhealthy behaviors because they lack the mental skills of emotional intelligence to deal wit things & evolve themselves
     
  9. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Most "bad" people are created during a "bad" childhood environment. Some may just be born that way but most aren't, IMO.
     
  10. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    I don't disagree with that.
     
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  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    the issue of money

    money is the access to mental health

    no money
    no mental health

    its not complicated
    so working class poor who live roughly 2 to 3 pay cheques from bankruptcy cant afford the prices of such specialists & their massive loans to pay for their years of study.

    but there is also the simple component of those who refuse to go even though they have the money

    the subject is gamed by those who want to maintain society as a jungle law survival game to become rich & keep their wealth & power as it is.

    • the fake liberal issue is brain washing

    you don't gain more freedom by having less access to health care

    & because im feeling generous inspite of being in financial dire straights

    (up shit creek without a paddle[i've got a paddle but its borrowed & im going to lose it sooner or later because it belongs to someone else who will take it back{99.999% chance}])

    i just forgot (my point)what i was going to type

    irony
    might be the cold i seem to have contracted
    however i am still battling a sinus & dental infection
     
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  12. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i believe in a concept roughly of some type of nature of evil as a potential theory in group behavior sets that might culture a sense of behaviors & drives that would then translate to be framed as evil

    but i tend toward that it is dysfunction or over drive or under drive(+/- ...etc)

    & like all things human
    addiction is a reality
    be that inner drives outer drives or sets & ranges of behaviors including & spanned or indented by drugs as medications & food(drugs means food/drink legal & illegal/recreational, some behaviors are addictive)

    i have put my attention on addiction for some years
    but a lot of society use addictions as frame works to validate forms of interactive exchange normalisation
    money
    trading
    clubs
    class systems
    social rankings

    easy example to look at & understand ... (i don't hate real-estate people[lol])

    house prices & housing

    is defined by systems of class
    so right down to self esteem & self inner value definitions
    material frameworks of addiction apply as exterior normalizes seeking compliance at all costs.

     

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