paddoboy, there is no Post in this Thread by anyone posting under the name "Write W4"! You Posted your Post #1558 at 08:25pm(EDT) , still failing to realize that the "one minor, little tiny "detail" that you would seem to need to clarify :" was that you had Posted, in your Post #1553, "Write W4" instead of "Write4U"! paddoboy, you edited your Post #1553 at 09::22pm(EDT), at which time you changed "Write W4" to "Write4U"! Another puerile "ad hominem", paddoboy? paddoboy, you actually know for a Fact that I am quite knowledgeable about Real Science and Real Science Methodology. That is one of your "Beefs" with me. paddoboy, there is every possibility that it is one of your prime motivations for your incessant, unrelenting attacks on me. paddoboy, you are simply using a "Cop Out", as you have termed it before, to evade answering the question relating to your statement : "Universally speaking, Abiogenesis is obvious.....". paddoboy, "Abiogenesis" is a Theory. Proselytize any inane subjective views of any puerile misunderstanding of Science, but it does not make the Theory of "Abiogenesis" a Fact. Not a Fact on Earth. And since Real Science has yet to physically observe Life anywhere else in the Universe(outside the confines of our Solar System!), "Abiogenesis" cannot possibly be "Universally...obvious"! paddoboy, I have no need for, nor any use for any "kindergarten" attempt to lecture me on anything. Again, you fully realize that my comprehension and understanding of Real Science is more than you even aspire to. And again, paddoboy, there is every possibility that it is one of your prime motivations for your incessant, unrelenting attacks on me. paddoboy, I clearly stated "Most everyone". Simply another childish ploy utilized to afford more Proselytizing? On the contrary, paddoboy, I always take "notice". You know that I take "notice" paddoboy. That is another "Beef" that you have with me, that you have stated many times in various Threads on SciForums. More evasion and Proselytizing? Possibly more venting of whatever issues you appear to harbor towards any Belief or Religion other than an Unreasoned Fanatic Faith in the GOD of Science and other Scientific Deities? paddoboy, near certainty is not certainty, you have to know that. Depending on exactly what "Evolution" you are referring to, it may or may not be a Scientific Fact. Since you are prefacing the word "fact" with the phrase "near certain", it is more than likely that you know that whatever "Evolution" you are referring is NOT a Real Scientific Fact. Ergo, a possible example of "Intellectual Dishonesty"? Yes, paddoboy, Details. Details that somehow seem to mean nothing to Tro...err, some people. Details, paddoboy. It is the Details that separate Real Science from the Quasi-Science and Pseudo-Science that Trol...err, some people opt to adhere to.