GMO Problems continue

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  1. river

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  3. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    In your words please.
    Alex
     
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  5. river

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    the microbiome of the bees is being destroyed by glyphosate in roundup .
     
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  7. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks it is a worry.
    We had a passionfruit plant...no bees so had to use an artist paint brush to do what once bees would do...

    There is a good business to be had supplying bees.
    Alex
     
  8. river

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    this business already exists
     
  9. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes it certainly does.
    I think Australia exports bees.
    Alex
     
  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Is colony collapse disorder limited to european/western honey bees?

    When we have honey bee declines is there a corresponding increase in syrphids?
     
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  11. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    First of all glyphosate in roundup is not a GMO. Secondly, GMOs have been deemed safe by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. So saying GMOs are dangerous is essentially being anti-science. Which for river is just the status quo.

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  12. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    it has taken some 20 years to get to this point.

    most people don't care about bees or the environment. they only care about themselves.
    that's the cold hard fact of the matter.
    only when their ego is damaged via their children being potentially killed by climate change do they start to care.

    the real question that is the only one worth seeking an answer for is "is it possible to save the bees" ?
    everything else is meaningless
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I wondered about that too. So I looked it up.
    The thing about GMOs is they are glyphosate-immune.
    Glyphosate can be sprayed on an entire crop with wild abandon, since it will kill all weeds, but not the crop.
    So the glyphosate ends up on the food, and in the pollen.
     
  14. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed. The problem with this particular gmo is it leads to the over use of glyphosphate. As someone who has lost several hives to CCD, I am not a big fan of pesticide over use!
     
  15. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    I was at a garden/farm supply store recently and commented on the vast array - like, a whole frickin wall! - of Kill-This and Snuff-That.
    All I said was "Got enough poison?" and the manager gave me a look that would have felled a sensitive horse, said "Not yet."
     
  16. river

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    Exactly

    Further , more importantly , the weeds adapt to glyphosate , continuosly
     
  17. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    What are weeds?
     
  18. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    In this new world, anything non-GMO, it would seem.
     
  19. river

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    Plants , that take nutrients from the soil , that the harvested crop needs .
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. Jeeves' point is that weeds are a human-defined category, relative only to what's desirable versus what is not.
     
  21. river

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    Thats not my point . Weeds adapt to the spray of roundup . That is my point . ( look back to my post # 13 ) .
     
  22. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    I see your point and raise you a point: If you make a salad of chickweed, lamb's quarters, violet leaves, dandelion and cress, you'll save a bundle on planticides and still have arable soil next year.
     
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  23. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    as/re poisons:
    What's bad for one of god's creatures ain't good for none of them.
     
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