God’s glitch in Eden. A & E had to break God’s second command to accomplish the first

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Greatest I am, Jul 27, 2013.

  1. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    No I don't. Deciding who is a "superior being" is repugnant.

    Are you seriously saying that adults are superior to children because children are innocent?

    Understanding the distinction between "different" and "superior" is not hiding.
     
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  3. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    I am saying that any mind that would choose innocent bliss as depicted in that clip over having the knowledge of good and evil is a fools mind.

    Yet that is what Christianity advocates when calling the gain of a moral mind a fall.

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    DL
     
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  5. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    "Have you already shown all you have and can now only throw stones and run away?"
     
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  7. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Too many of your ilk for me to bother with.

    Regards
    DL
     
  8. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    " 'Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt' "
     
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  9. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    That doesn't make any sense. If the mind was innocent to begin with, it didn't have the capacity to make decisions, foolish or otherwise.

    What Christianity advocates is a fall from grace - i.e. a loss of innocence. The whole question of good and evil revolves around the fact that there are good and evil sides to everything: sex, work, even being godlike. You can't fall without being in a high place to begin with and you can't go to a high place without the risk of falling.
     
  10. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    If A & E were innocent, then God was unjust in punishing. Right?

    Regards
    DL
     
  11. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    I quoted what I read and I responded to what I quoted. If you think I missed something, you'll have to be more specific.

    You'll have to make up your mind. If God "punished" Adam and Eve, then that was a fall (from grace). If their new situation/enlightenment was an improvement, it wasn't a punishment.
     
  12. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    I can and did. You cannot and did not.

    Thanks for this.

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    DL
     
  13. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    You're running away again. Just answer the question: How could Adam and Eve be "punished" and made "superior" at the same time?
     
  14. arauca Banned Banned

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    Who said he punished them , He just said go out of my garden, because you did it once you will do it again.
     
  15. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Was he going to have Satan fool them again like the first time?

    Double up on his prick points?

    You forget that he also actively and analogically locked away the food that would keep them alive.

    That is called murder my friend so love your murderous God all you like. Satan loves that side of him as well.

    Regards
    DL
     
  16. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    They could not. Punished is the Christian thinking. Not the thinking of the Jews and it is their myth.

    How is becoming like God a punishment?

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    DL
     
  17. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Mr. Greatest I am, you ask, "How is becoming like God a punishment?"
    Do you have an answer to that question?
    Perhaps someone who had went through an Apotheosis and became like God would be able to answer that question.

    This was posted in a thread, a while back :

    "... Here is my short anecdotal story.

    The Godhead I know in a nutshell.
    I was a skeptic till the age of 39.
    I then had an apotheosis and later branded myself an esoteric ecumenist and Gnostic Christian. Gnostic Christian because I exemplify this quote from William Blake.

    “Both read the Bible day and night, But thou read'st black where I read white.”..."

    Perhaps the person who posted that would be able to answer the question that you ask.

    What do you think............
     
  18. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    I think that becoming like God to be our number one moral priority.
    Even Socrates said that man's greatest work was to improve his character.

    Only Christians seem to forget that they are to become as Gods as they strive to emulate him.

    Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

    Churches do not teach what Jesus taught though.

    Regards
    DL
     
  19. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    So : "How is becoming like God a punishment?"
     
  20. arauca Banned Banned

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    "Churches do not teach what Jesus taught though."
    A christian should follow Yashua and not the church . Church is not responsible for my life , it is me ., Church is a group of people that gathers to praise the Lord.
     
  21. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Read slower.

    "I think that becoming like God to be our number one moral priority. ".

    Regards
    DL
     
  22. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    I agree but Christians do not follow Jesus at all.

    He told us to accept the burden of salvation for ourselves meanwhile Christians are all trying to ride him as their scapegoat whipping boy savior.

    Quite pathetic to see.

    Regards
    DL
     
  23. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    So, your question : "How is becoming like God a punishment?"
    And your answer : "I think that becoming like God to be our number one moral priority. "

    The speed of reading has nothing to do with it.
    First off, you ask how becoming like a mythical/fictional creature is punishment.
    Then you state your thought that becoming like that mythical/fictional creature should be OUR number one moral priority, as an answer.
    Who is/are this OUR you speak of? And how is punishment akin to a moral priority?
    ...........Read slower............
    y. o. u. p. r. o. v. i. d. e. n. o. a. n. s. w. e. r. s. o, n. l. y. i. n. a. n. e. i. n. c. o. h. e. r. e. n. c. e.
     

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