Gravity slows down time.

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience' started by chinglu, Aug 18, 2013.

  1. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    All you do is reinforce your tag as a liar and a fraud...840 posts, 42 pages and no one has refuted you???

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    The previous poster, RW, has spent considerable time trying to "spoon feed" you and pry a logical response to a couple of simple questions, yet you still avoid answering them.....Others have bent over backwards for you to be given a fair go.
    You have spat in their face and continue to play games, something which I actually mentioned back in the first half a dozen pages or so.

    We all are sick and tied of refuting you. It's the whole scientific world that refutes you and has every day since 1905.
    You are a lost cause....a sick lost cause.
     
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  3. river

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    paddoboy

    you seem ......zealous .....
     
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  5. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Zealous??? Not really, although I am in awe of the Universe around us, and the means we use to describe it based on observation and experiments.
    I have my own ideas on a couple of issues, but in saying that, I certainly don't just rush in claiming I have some magical insight into different aspects, and that the mainstream views are wrong.
    That's what distinguishes this particular charlatan and others with their immediate claims of having discovered what mainstream science has not, from myself and normal folk.
    The scientific method and peer review is the best we have got, and no other system can progresses the cause of real science as much as the present scientific method.......That's not to say that on the odd occasion, some idea, not mainstream, could be swept away or lost in the mountains of junk that needs to be sifted through.
    But no system is perfect, still it's the best we have.
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Ahaa, I actually missed that post. So this was in normal accepted science first?
    Explains a lot as to why we have over 800 posts and as yet, no resolution....Other then of course that SR/GR works and are observed to work in the modern society we are all a part of [well most of us that is

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  8. river

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    the present system is flawed , far beyond the best we have
     
  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    That's your opinion, and incorrect at that....Unless of course you have a better system.
     
  10. Lakon Valued Senior Member

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    Chinglu, to be fair, I see now, amongst all the noise, that a few posts ago you may have asked me for MY definition of time. My answer is, I don't know what time is. I don't have a definition.

    However, this is beside the point as I am asserting nothing in this thread. I was simply keen to follow a conversation between you and RW that seemed to require an approach from the ground up, as I thought this might be of benefit to progress in our understanding. We have to, after all, agree on basic terms before we can progress, otherwise it's just noise.

    So once again, regardless of mine, or yours, or anyones definition of time, the simple questions put to you are,

    - Define what a clock is,
    - Define what a clock does.

    As you are the principal contributor of alternative ideas in this thread, don't you think it's appropriate that you simply answer these two simple questions, so we know we're on the same page ?

    We can then progress from there. Thanks.
     
  11. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Nonsense. The mainstream of science has provided all of the scientific advancements we now enjoy as modern technology, for the past 400 years. No other method for acquiring knowledge has produced even a tiny fraction of our current technology.

    BTW, "far beyond the best we have" means better than the best....I know that's not what you mean though.
     
  12. river

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    yes you do know what I mean

    Is that we could be far , far , far more advanced than what we are now , if not for the flawed system of " science " we have now and for goodness knows how long ....
     
  13. arfa brane call me arf Valued Senior Member

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    Man, you look like someone who has no idea what science is.

    Your conjecture is asinine, it's like saying the earth could be in a much better place than it is.
     
  14. river

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    not just Earth , but also forms of travel
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Now try to be a bit fair dinkum, and take the time to check back near the beginning.
    He is not interested in giving you any definition as that will reveal the inconsistencies, and ridiculous assumptions he needs to dream up supporting his gobbldydook.





    It doesn't even stack up as an alternative idea......the assumptions needed defy common sense. eg Clocks being hardwired to the motions of the earth.
     
  16. chinglu Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know how many times I have to answer this. The purpose of a clock is to provide a technology that mimics some percentage that matches the rotation of the earth.

    I have already proven that frequency based clocks in GPS are supposed to match as close as possible the rotation of the earth in some percentage.

    Now, here is what I want you do do.

    Use specifics on how I have not answered what a clock is using the above. So, the above is my definition of a clock period. It is specific and matched with GPS and UTC.

    It is now your turn to describe a clock in your "SR" world. If your definition does not match mine, then you will be refuted quickly.

    If you match mine, then your refute SR. So, all you folks step up to the plate.

    I have stated and provided proof for my definition of a clock and time over and over.

    It is now your turn. You see, if you folks are correct, then you will quickly provide your SR definition and since this is so correct, all these many readers of this thread will laugh all day at me. That should give you all joy.

    Let's go.
     
  17. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Only once, correctly. But repeating the wrong answer over and over again will not ever make it stop being wrong. You could fix this easily if you choose to: Just copy and paste the first sentence of the wiki or the definition from a dictionary link.
     
  18. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    The arrogance!!!!
    Why do you persist in trying to convince us Idiots?
    If you are correct, get it peer reviewed, take it to the world! Why waste your time in "PSEUDOSCIENCE "
    Make a name for yourself [YOU CERTAINLY WILL, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!

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  19. chinglu Valued Senior Member

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    Well, looks like you are going to refute me.

    Go at it and prove I am wrong and I will be embarrassed I guess.
     
  20. chinglu Valued Senior Member

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    Why do you persist in trying to convince us Idiots?

    I did not claim I could.
     
  21. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Of course you can't,,,,just as any peer review outlet would wipe their arse with your proposal.
    Which tells a great deal about the delusional state you are sufferring in.

    So, anyway, you can't convinvce anyone here, obviously any peer review outlet would send you packing, so where does that leave you?
    Wandering the world, with an idea that would change everything and everybody, but nobody is taking any notice of you......Quite frustrating I would Imagine.

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  22. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    No. I will not spoonfeed you elementary school knowledge. You will have to go get it yourself and bring it here to prove that you aren't just playing games (or, rather, are willing to stop playing games). Until then, you've simply shown the people in this thread you don't understand what clocks/time are on even a most basic level.
     
  23. chinglu Valued Senior Member

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    I think you are cornfused. I wanted you to get specific in your definitions as I did. That way, I can show you where you are wrong.

    Now, lot's of readers have come here and since you are a self-proclaimed "expert", I am sure they want to hear your "expert" opinion. So, stop being coy and get specific just the way I did.
     

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