Great victory over political correctness and leftist propaganda

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Ultron, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Funny bit about that.

    So, the fact that it's Oregon cracks me up, but is otherwise coincidental. Once upon a time I got a job through a temp agency with a telephone survey firm; I will never do a calling job like that again, and the impossibility of the survey resulted in specifically unscientific results that might well have been involved in the client's decision to run two ballot measures instead of one, thus resulting in the failure of both when they could have probably passed one exactly meaningless social morality bill.

    Yeah. (sigh)

    That was some years ago. These days, well, okay, so there is this company called out of Portland, Oregon↱, and their name just happens to be attached to a solicitation call I get on my mobile. No, really, for once I looked up the number.

    Because it's a scam call.

    823 employees providing "communications network services for telecom carriers in the United States", as the Bloomberg profile for the Portland, Oregon-based company has it.

    There's a call going around in the Puget Sound region: You anwer, and there is a moment of silence, and then a confused woman saying, "What? Hello? Oh, my gosh! I'm sorry, I was just ... I was having a problem with my husband. I hadn't realized someone had picked up. At any rate, I'm calling because ...", and then a fake pitch about how you used their services before.

    Yeah. After the third time in as many weeks, I decided to look up the number.

    And that's who I found. It's entirely possible someone is spoofing them, or moonlighting and forgot to hide the phone's caller data. But, yeah. Sadly, these call jobs still exist. Telephone surveys and scams.
     
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  3. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    The only people who are scared are those who have something to hide.
     
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  5. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    You are joking, right?
    I hear more divisive talk coming from the other side. It's gloomy and creates tension where there needs be none.
     
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  7. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Oh, like the random black or middle eastern folks who have been harassed, and even physically assaulted, at gas station pumps by Trump supporters?

    Get your head out of your ass, if you are even capable of doing so.

    No, not at all... since the two of you seem to be utterly out of touch with what has been going on since Trumps victory...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-muslim-hate-trump-supporters_us_57fbcd79e4b0e655eab66379
    How about attacking children and infants...?
    Petty vandalism... classy.
    http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/10/violence-committed-against-women-by-trump-supporters.html
    There are just a smattering of what is available... I'd say you should take a half hour or so and google it, read through what is actually going on... but I doubt even seeing it first-hand would change your opinions on God Emperor Trump...

    So, yes. I have started carrying my knife with me, just in case... and once time permits, I plan to go register for my concealed carry. I hope to never need it...

    As for your last part, Bowser...

    That's funny... considering Trump has condoned, and even called for, violence...

    http://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#m4ZHBVDDTiqP
    Oh, and how about shitting on our right to peaceful protest..?
    Or his claims that he'll defend his supporters in court if they hurt his detractors...
    So... sorry, but no. You don't get to gaslight and dismiss these concerns. YOUR FUCKING CANDIDATE is urging people to violence against those who they disagree with... and guess what. We are getting more violence! What a shocking correlation!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-muslim-hate-trump-supporters_us_57fbcd79e4b0e655eab66379

     
  8. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Those who remember W's election, and a surprising number of those who voted for him apparently cannot,

    (or Reagan's from way back, same basic scene

    can see what's coming here. Cheney & Friends. Bohica government. The monster in the Gulf slowly coming ashore.

    Trump really has nominated Rex Tillerson for Secretary of State, Rick Perry and Ben Carson for important positions in the Federal Government involving real life decisions. He really has stuffed his administration with oil billionaires and Goldman Sachs execs and crankbait military generals and comedy-fodder politicians - and his children. He really is still tweeting like a twelve-year-old in the middle of the night, really does have large and conflicting "business interests" all over the world including with Russia. It's not going to turn out ok, ok?

    For example: When W nominated - in turn - Harriet Miers and Samuel Alito, for the actual bona fide real life Supreme Court, we weren't surprised. When W's horse show entrepreneur and loyal campaign supporter turned out to lack the priorities and organizational skills important at the head of FEMA, this was not a shock. It was the same general scene we'd been watching play at all the other Federal agencies, only FEMA has to deal with hurricanes - they do their own spinning.

    Reality does not take orders, cannot be fired and replaced with something more cooperative. Trump has no more (and probably even less) idea of how to govern a country than Rand Paul, Newton Leroy Gingrich, or Rick Snyder does, than Roger Ailes or Jeff Zucker or Steve Bannon or Rush Limbaugh or Alex Jones has of running an actual newsroom - he's got some skills, but they don't apply to what we hired him for.

    Whether or not the typical Trump voter, buried in their Foxhole of fantasy, ever registers the events of the day, bears only on whether or not the blame gets pinned to the responsible, not whether they happened. Fascists do not make the trains run on time - quite the opposite.
     
  9. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    After eight years of "Obama is a Kenyan-born terrorist" I have to laugh.
     
  10. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Here's an interesting proposition: Browse in private mode at all times.

    You know that video argument thing they do, posting YouTube with no commentary of their own, sometimes even refusing to provide any original content? Well, think about that. If you click on that video and watch, then YouTube is going to recommend a bunch more bigotry to you. Well, unless you browse in private mode, or sign out every time you use an online function, and even that latter occasionally seems insecure.

    That's the point.

    It's crude SEO. Just keep repeating. Create a large amount of noise for search engines to wade through. Normalize as a statistical outcome by flooding the sample.

    People like Bowser don't come here to discuss anything in good faith. They come here to screw with other people's lives because apparently they must. Disrupting other people's lives is their validation of purpose.

    That is to say, the point isn't to actually prove jack shit; the point is just to repeat their falsehoods and inflammatory will over and over again.
     
  11. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    To which I am inclined to say "no more." This isn't a soap box, this isn't a blog, this isn't a political opinion site - this is a message board. If someone is here to do something other than converse/debate/learn or otherwise take part in discussion in good faith... then they shouldn't be here.

    My $.02
     
  12. karenmansker HSIRI Banned

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    I TOTALLY AGREE!! . . . . . Oh-h-h-h . . . never mind my dyslexic moment . . . . sorry . . . . . I mis-read 'Bowser' as 'Tiassa'
     
  13. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    A story originally brought out by Hillary's campaign, no less.
     
  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I have to say, your lies are getting worse. Why do you feel you have to lie to try to make your point?
     
  15. spidergoat Speak of the Devil Valued Senior Member

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    Nope.
     
  16. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Yet point blank, in a camera, he told people to "stop it." You can't hold a man responsible for the actions of others. I don't see an epidemic outbreak of violence. There are people on both sides of the isle who want to cast a shadow on the man's character. When he starts building detainment camps, then we will have a problem, but I don't see that in the future, Sorry to disappoint.
     
  17. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Yep.
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Snopes:
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    We investigate Donald Trump's claim that the conspiracy theory about Barack Obama not being born in the U.S. originated inside Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign.


    David Emery
    Updated: Sep 18, 2016


    Claim: Hillary Clinton and/or members of her 2008 presidential campaign started the "birther" movement questioning whether Barack Obama was born in the U.S.

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    n 16 September 2016, after years of being the most visible and outspoken exponent of "birtherism" — the notion that, despite all evidence to the contrary, Barack Obama was born outside the U.S. and thus his presidency is illegitimate and his allegiances suspect — GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump stepped up to the podium at a televised campaign event and completely reversed his stance on the matter — but not before trying to lay blame for the long, drawn-out smear campaign on someone else.

    "Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy. I finished it," Trump said. "President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period."

    . . . .

    The conspiracy theory was already fully formed at this point. Clearly, the Clinton supporters accused of spreading it via forwarded e-mails knew "good ammo" when they saw it, but, as the above posts show, they deserve neither credit nor blame for the invention of birtherism.
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  19. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    It wasn't.
    But it wouldn't matter if it had been, originally - it was immediately dropped by all those people, because of facts, and the only reason anyone has ever heard it since (and something like 2/3 of all Trump voters think it's at least plausible) is that rightwing whackjob internet and Donald Trump championed it for years.

    Both the whackjob internet and the Trump are now in the White House, about to take over US foreign policy. That's a big part of the victory over Political Correctness and Leftwing Propaganda (aka "facts of the matter") being celebrated in the OP.
     
  20. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Look, we know where the dirt came from and who was trying to start problems, and people were watching. This past election has left me so disappointed with the Democratic Party and the left, I just can't regain any respect I once had for them. What really hurts is that people on the Left haven't learned.



    Talk whatever crap you want, we know where the real problem sits, which is why Trump won. I suppose we should be thankful...

     
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  21. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    You don't. You still believe there's a pony in a pile of manure you got from the people who brought you Trump.

    Because the "we" in this sentence:
    is the Republican core voter, and that crowd hasn't seen its feet on the ground since 1980.
    You have never had any idea what was happening on the Left, and all your information about the Democratic Party is lies and slanders from the rightwing media.

    Meanwhile, you and your "we" just voted to kick about 20 million people, most of them children, off their health insurance. Do you suppose the rest of the country is blind to where their problem is?
     
  22. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Oh yes, he told people to "stop it". So forceful, much serious, such wow. The fact that that is the BEST retort you have to the numerous points I presented is telling.

    I would tell you to get a clue, Bowser... but unfortunately, that isn't something you can just buy.

    PS - regarding detainment camps...

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/17/politics/trump-supporter-internment-muslim-registry/

    .

    Guess what, Bowser - his supporters seem to have no qualms pushing towards them!

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...inly-hate-the-concept/?utm_term=.1c6b4fa193ee
    And what a shock... he's not willing to simply say that he would be against internment camps!

    *smdh*
     
  23. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    Ok than allmighty knowing liberal, share your wisdom and tell us all what YOU would have answered to this question. And if the answer is a No, what would you do with the Japanese?

    Alien and Sedition Acts have been a fabric of USA since 1798, it makes the country what it is today, a world renowned superpower with security measures implemented to safeguard the integrity of a nation. Without these in place, the country would have been subjected to espionage the results of which would have had changed the nation altogether.
     
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