Greatest I Am's anti-religion thread

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by Greatest I am, May 3, 2017.

  1. sweetpea Registered Senior Member

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    You better ask GIA, I was just saying what I think the following means...
    According to GIA he is not an atheist...
    From... http://www.sciforums.com/threads/who-are-more-moral-men-or-women.112250/
     
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  3. birch Valued Senior Member

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    i just re-read it and realized i wrote 'agnostic' instead of 'gnostic.' if he is a practicing gnostic, then he isn't an athiest. however, if he utlitizes these just as a way of metaphors or still not cemented in his ideas or sure, it doesn't necessarily mean he isn't atheist or agnostic. i don't know or really care what his beliefs are but he/she never struck me as being sure but rather questioning which is better than locked in one framework.
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Wow. That explains a lot.
     
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  7. sweetpea Registered Senior Member

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    So, his posts are falling on deaf ears in your case and you won't be signing GIA's petition to the United Nations to ''declare war'' against ''Islam''?
    GIA said...
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    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/let-us-be-honest-islam’s-ideology-is-immoral-to-its-core-should-we-ask-the-haigue-and-u-n-to-rule.157949/
    But then, if your a woman GIA would not expect you to sign, since women have lower moral standards.
    GIA said...
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    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/who-are-more-moral-men-or-women.112250/
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2017 at 11:58 AM
  8. birch Valued Senior Member

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    you are really taking things out of context. as i said before and as that thread indicates, GIA is more a questioner of ideas. he did not say women have lower moral standards, he said he personally may have higher moral standards.

    as for islam, whether it's pc or not, islam is a crappy religion per the koran. did you expect a pc response? the koran is a very corrupt book and so a dangerous ideology or religion. is there some insane reason that the very things modern society deems inappropriate, sexist, immoral etc is somehow okay or ignored when it's magically in the religious section?

    at least GIA has the guts and honesty to call it like it is. besides, did you not notice all the other sexist and stereotyping replies in that post from others? why are you just focused on GIA?
     
  9. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I'm not sure about that.

    As far as I can tell, GIA has recently flipped from being an avowed atheist/agnostic to now proclaiming himself to be a "gnostic Christian", whatever that is supposed to mean.

    He is still preaching that all religions are wrong, but now he seems to have added that "gnostic Christianity" is an exception to his general rule, for some reason that he is yet to adequately explain.
     
  10. sweetpea Registered Senior Member

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    '' Perhaps even superior to women.'' Read what GIA says...
    My bold. From... http://www.sciforums.com/threads/who-are-more-moral-men-or-women.112250/

    Even more reason for GIA to be ACTIVE somewhere where it counts, instead of flapping his gums on a forum and getting where exactly? Recently I did ask him how his lobbying of the UN was going.

    If he's honest with himself in his 'beliefs', he wouldn't waste his time on a forum trying to change the world. Because that's what he's doing when talking about the UN.
     
  11. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    I addressed that in post #250 (and GIA seems to have agreed with my interpretation).

    To save having to go back and look for it, here it is again:

    I think that it might help to understand where GIA is coming from if we read him as a modern-day proponent of ancient Marcionism.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcionism

    This was an early Christian 'heresy' that accepted Jesus, but rejected the God of the Old Testament. The idea was that the OT God was really the devil, and this fallen world really was something very much like hell, but the real higher God, the God of Love as opposed to the god of death and hate, took pity on us and out of compassion sent down Jesus to this awful place to aid us.


    I agree that GIA uses "all religions" too loosely. His criticisms don't seem to even apply to the early Buddhism that interests me. But then again, much of the atheist rhetoric against the evils of "religion" doesn't apply either. (Misusing the concept of 'religion' isn't just GIA's failing.)

    GIA seems to basically be an opponent of the OT Hebrew God, or at least how that God is portrayed in "scripture". Since Christianity and Islam have adopted that God and that earlier tradition, I guess that GIA's criticisms apply to all of the so-called "Abrahamic" traditions.

    And it's probably useful to notice that GIA's criticisms of this OT God are all moral criticisms. GIA isn't attacking the idea of God from an epistemological or metaphysical direction, like atheists so often do.
     
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  12. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Greatest I am:

    Is this what you mean by "gnostic Christianity"?

    A Christianity where you believe in Jesus and a loving, good God, but a Christianity that is not "organised"?

    Does this Gnostic Christianity demand anything of its followers? In what sense it is "disorganised"?
     

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