Help with English

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  1. Baldeee Valued Senior Member

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    I think there are a few possible distinctions.
    The one I favour is that automotive industry is involved in the design, manufacture and selling of any type of vehicle, whereas automobile refers, generally, to road vehicles (cars, trucks, motorbikes).
    Automobile can therefore be considered a subset of automotive.

    However, others might see the difference as being that the automobile industry is the industry that deals with the finished product (the car - so would include garages, fuel stations etc) whereas automotive is involved in the creation of that car (and other vehicles).
     
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  3. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    So BMW is one of the companies in automotive industry?

    How about aerospace industry vs. aeronautical industry ?
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes.

    How about them? Yes, BMW is involved in the aerospace industry; mostly re: engines.
     
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  7. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I guess technically that not everything that is automotive is an automobile. Boats, for example, can be automotive.
     
  8. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I think they're the same thing.
    --

    Are you sure you need our help with this level of English? Have you considered using a dictionary?
     
  9. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    In general usage there's a difference between an automobile and a bus or a truck.
     
  10. Baldeee Valued Senior Member

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    Aerospace is the design and manufacture of anything that either flies in atmosphere or travels in space.
    Aeronautics is only related to travel through an atmosphere (I.e. aeroplanes, helicopters etc).

    So the Aerospace industry would include all of NASA's space stuff and aircraft stuff, while the aeronautics industry would include the NASA divisions just working on in-atmosphere flight.
     
  11. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    missiles belongs to aerospace industry?
     
  12. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    So, if Saint is an AI, learning by asking, then this thread is taking an alarming turn...
     
  13. geordief Registered Senior Member

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    You mean this is Kim Jong-St?
     
  14. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    He hanged himself, does it mean he killed himself by hanging?
    Can it be he just hanged himself with a rope from the ceiling?
     
  15. Baldeee Valued Senior Member

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    Yes.
    Yes.
     
  16. geordief Registered Senior Member

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    Yes!














    Molly Bloom in case you were wondering
     
  17. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Many forests/jungles.
    Can be plural?
    How to count forests?
     
  18. Baldeee Valued Senior Member

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    There are many forests, such as the New Forest, Sherwood Forest, Epping forest, Forest of Avon, etc.

    Not sure how many distinct jungles there are, they tend to be huge swathes of land, such as the Congolian jungle.

    But yes, the words can be plural but would be referring to more than one distinct areas of forest or jungle.

    You can also talk about the words in non-counting terms... So "there is much jungle between us and our destination" where the word "jungle" here refers not to the entire named jungle land area but to the type of terrain/vegetation etc.
     
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  19. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    You probably wouldn't say it that way because people would assume he killed himself. You might say, "He hung from the ceiling by a rope," to explain how he changed a light bulb, for example.
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I do believe 'hanged' is specifically reserved for being hung by the the neck.
    You don't say "we hanged the Christmas lights".

    There's a more subtle grammatical issue at play here.

    From: http://writingexplained.org/hanged-vs-hung-difference

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    Hanged
    is the past tense and past participle of hang only when used in the sense of “put to death by hanging.”

    For example,

    • The traitor was hanged for treason.
    • The criminal was hanged in the public square for his crimes.
    It’s important to remember that hanged has a very specific use. We only use hanged when we are referring to the killing of a human being by suspending the person by the neck. With all other past tenses of hang, you will want to use hung.

    And if death is not intended or likely, or the person is suspended by a body part other than the neck, use hung.

    For example,
    • They hung him out to dry.
    • He was hung upside down as part of the prank.
    • They hung him by his arms and beat him
     
  21. geordief Registered Senior Member

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    Here is a discussion on "hung" vs "hanged"

    http://grammarist.com/usage/hanged-hung/

    I like the line from Blazing Saddles as mentioned there

    “They said you were hung.”
    “And they were right!”
     
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  22. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    With much pomp and ridiculous display/
    The politician was laid away./
    While many scoffed and others slanged/
    I wept:I'd longed to see him HANGED!

    (Belloc - from memory. It may not be a quite accurate quotation.)
     
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  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Nothin' like a well-placed Blazing Saddles reference.

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