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Discussion in 'Health & Fitness' started by timojin, Sep 19, 2016.

  1. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Note from the Linguistics Moderator:

    According to the dictionary, the abbreviation "ACV" can stand for "actual cash value" or "air cushion vehicle."

    I have no idea what Orinda is referring to.
     
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  3. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    I'm going to assume by ACV he meant Apple Cider Vinegar.

    http://www.simpleorganiclife.org/acv-honey-empty-stomach-1796295877.html

    Supposedly great for a number of reasons... but most of the "instructions" on this "miracle tincture" seem to have a similar premise:

    My best guess is that it isn't so much the Honey and Vinegar that is helping with all the issues... but rather the added intake of water. Yes, real natural raw honey is somewhat antimicrobial and anti-inflammatory in nature, as is Apple Cider Vinegar... but I would think being a bit dehydrated (and then resolving that issue) would do far more to improve your wellness.

    Now, the Vinegar may be helping with the heartburn if the issue is one of low acidity... but a tablespoon doesn't seem like enough to have a profound effect?
     
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  5. deepslate Registered Member

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    I take a tsp of honey with lemon on an empty stomach for as long as I can remember. It definitely boost my immune system and reduced my bloating.
     
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  7. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Going back 50 years my father when had a hartburn , He used a halve glass of water dissolved a tablespoon of bicarb then added one tablespoon of vinegar , and he drinked it and it solved his problem
     
  8. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    That is a weird thing to do. Bicarb is a base and vinegar is an acid. Maybe he just liked burping up CO2?
     
  9. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    I feel don't argue with success. It worked for him it works for me , It may be a placebo, He died at 89 years old so apparently is not harmfull.
     
  10. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    Heartburn is from stomache acid refluxing into the esophagus causing inflamation, so taking bicarb is definitely NOT a placebo. The bicarb will neutrilize the acid in the esophagus relieving the inflamation. Taking vinegar, which is an acid makes no sense at all. Stick with the bicarb and skip the vinegar.
     
  11. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Let start this way the acidity in the stomach is about 0.1 PH Acetates buffer at about PH 4.0 So then the acetate will to some extent rise the PH in the stomach, depending on the amount of acetate,. and that might relieve some discomfort .
     
  12. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    If you want to drink vinegar for heartburn, go right ahead.
     
  13. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Actually, it makes a certain amount of sense - I have been reading more and more that many people who suffer heartburn are doing so because of their stomach acid not being potent enough, and thus it takes longer for food to digest and pass through to the intestines; when the lower esophageal sphincter relaxes, boom, heartburn.

    Typical antacids would only exacerbate this, though they would provide temporary relief (of the esophagus itself).
     
  14. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    Like I said if you want to drink vinegar for heartburn, go ahead, I will stick with taking a base (bicarb) and enjoy the almost instant relief.
     
  15. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Oh, I'm not questioning the efficacy of bicarbonate - indeed, it will provide near instant relief the majority of the time.
    The issue comes when the heartburn / reflux becomes constant, especially after eating a meal (even without normal "trigger" foods) - a lot of times, people are prescribed things like a proton pump inhibitor or other more powerful acid reducers. I'm not sure how many GP's are equipped to test stomach acidity; I would ask for a referral to a gastroenterologist to have that sort of thing checked out.

    In my case, it was a combination of factors, stemming mostly from Eosinophilic Esophagitis and Esophageal Acid Reflux caused by premature relaxing of the lower Esophageal Sphincter. It caused my esophagus to become ribbed (like corrugated tubing) rather than smooth, which resulted in a host of problems.

    The ironic solution for me was to increase my stomach acidity (so food didn't take quite as long to digest), combined with a mild PPI that has a secondary use in treating EE. It's so nice to be able to eat normally without fear of debilitating chest pains or food getting stuck!

    Ultimately, it comes down to "if it works for you, it works" - after all, everybody is different

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  16. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    I wonder if a glass of orange juice will do the trick.
     
  17. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    I dunno to be honest
     
  18. Torry Cox Registered Member

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    Every morning I eat one spoonful of honey for an after-sleep. Ever since childhood, my mother has taught me to do this. She said that it is good for health.
     
  19. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    For how many years are you doing that, I am doing this with some instant coffee in the last 1 to 2 years and I feel ok,
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Every evening I smoke a cigar. I have been doing this for five years and I feel OK.
     
  21. karenmansker HSIRI Banned

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    Is it OK to offer medical advice on Sciforums . . . . . might be some liability issues unless you can provide medical credentials for the members . . .just saying . . . rules are rules . . . Right?
     
  22. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Do tou get high ?
     
  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    From a cigar? No.
    One doesn't inhale.
     

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