Hottest january ever say climate experts

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  1. desi Valued Senior Member

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  3. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    The world doesn't stop at the equator, you know.
     
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  5. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    Climate scientist ranks right up there with used car salesman right now. Both seem more interested in selling us a bill of goods than exposing the truth.
     
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  7. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Here in Key West we have had a rather cold winter. The past 8 years or so saw a very mild temperature for this time of year here but this year has changed that.
     
  8. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    We can't trust the lot of you. You're upside down, and all of the blood rushes to your head.
     
  9. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    It's nothing surprising.
    Only among gullible people in the propaganda bubble. IIRC you posted this morass of malarky from the dailyexpress, for example - I think you even believed it:
    We've got people with a source like that using it to argue against "climate scientists". That's a joke, as long as it does little damage.
     
  10. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    That must be it. :3

    To everybody else... You are aware that while it's winter in the northern hemisphere, it's summer in the southern? Right?

    And that global average temperatures include those in the southern hemispehere... Right?
     
  11. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    You wouldn't be from Terra Australis Incognita, would you?
     
  12. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    That all depends on how you relate the concept to the modern world. Where I live was, at one point, part of Terra Australis Incognita, yes.
     
  13. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    It's a symptom of hemispheric arrogance. Just like every globe you see; the northern hemisphere is on top, the southern is on the bottom. On every scifi television show and movie, the Earth is always oriented that way. What difference would it make if the southern hemisphere were facing "up"? For that matter, why would an orbit aligned with the equator be preferred? Why not a polar orbit? Is anything other than an equatorial orbit considered bad manners? An interstellar gaffe, and the potential cause of interstellar war?
     
  14. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Quite right, one of the reasons I much prefer to use McArthurs Universal Corrective Map of the World.

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    Well I know in the States there was increased cloud cover and more rain - which meant more latent heat exchange. By pure intuition I would guess that the majority of the Southern Hemisphere saw more "Sunny Days" this Northern-winter than in the past. The majority of the sea surface variation for the positive was in the southern hemisphere as well....and if you consider that they're saying: "This is the warmest January on record using Satellites when compared with climate data going back to 1850" and I think Satellite data extends back to maybe* 1970...they're kind of being dishonest. That is, since a great deal of this warming would have occurred in the ocean.
     
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    And it has been an el nino year.

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    Should temperatures below the equator even matter when most of the world's food comes from the Northern Hemisphere? If this 'go green' thing stops global warming and the sun starts a cool cycle humanity could be in a world of hurt if Iowa is covered in snow come August.
     
  18. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    The Hottest January ever?

    Oh really, just Google;

    Coldest January 2010, and you get 270,000+ stories from around the world that give lie to that claim;

    Chilling out in the coldest place on Earth - environment - 06 ...
    Jan 6, 2010 ... Chilling out in the coldest place on Earth. 06 January 2010; Magazine issue 2742 . Subscribe and get 4 free issues. ...

    http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527426.200-chilling-out-in-the-coldest-place-on-earth.html - 57k - Cached - Similar pages
    MyReporter.com How much colder than normal was January 2010 in ...
    Feb 2, 2010 ... January 2010 will go down in the records as one of the coldest ever recorded in Southeastern North Carolina, according to the monthly ...

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    Coldest January recorded for almost 25 years in Switzerland ...
    Feb 1, 2010 ... has experienced its coldest January for almost a quarter of a century. ... Avalanche tragedy strikes rescuers hard; 12.01.2010 ...

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    January 'coldest month in decades' - The Irish Times - Mon, Feb 01 ...
    Feb 1, 2010 ... Temperatures in Ireland were an average of 6 degrees below normal in the first 10 days of last month, Met Éireann said today.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0201/breaking47.html - 42k - Cached - Similar pages
    A Top-5 Coldest Start to January Across Most Of The Area
    Jan 10, 2010 ... TOP 5 COLDEST JANUARY 1-9 PERIODS AT SMITH CENTER (AVERAGE TEMP): 1) 2.2 IN 1974 2) 9.1 IN 1979 3) 10.7 IN 2010 4) 10.8 IN 1988 ...

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    UK faces coldest winter in 30 years – forecasts | UK news | The ...
    UK faces coldest winter in 30 years – forecasts. Digg it · Buzz up · Share on facebook .... It was last modified at 00.12 GMT on Wednesday 6 January 2010. ...

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    JANUARY 2010 – WET AND THE TENTH COLDEST - West Tennessee Weather ...
    It ranks January 2010 as the tenth coldest January on record for Jackson. The highest temperature recorded was 66º on the 21st and the lowest temperature ...

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    Hannity repeats false claim that 2009 was "coldest year on record ...
    by RavenRog (January 06, 2010 11:30 am ET). I don't know about 2009, but 2010 is sure looking to be one of the coldest on record. ...

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    7TH COLDEST JANUARY ON RECORD. MANY OF THE COLD FRONTS THAT CROSSED THE REGION DURING JANUARY 2010. BROUGHT BANDS OF SHOWERS WITH A FEW STORMS INTO CENTRAL ...

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    Yes the AGW Orthodoxy that Man is the Sinner and the True Believes in the Theology of AGW, can save us from our ecological sins, just send them the money and they will save us from ourselves and make a Paradise for all the forgiven sinners who renounce their earth warming ways, sounds a lot like some other Theologians with a True Orthodoxy that will save the sinners just send the money;

    How about Jimmy Baker.....Jimmy Swaggart....Marjoe Gortner.....all of those True Believers that if you sent them your money would save you from your self, while they became rich.

    Sound a lot like Algore doesn't it.....and much of the rest of the AGW Orthodox believers whose livelihood rest on money extorted from us through the government, in grants for their life styles.

    Yes, January 2010 the Warmest ever???? :roflmao:
     
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    All of which (with one exception) are for the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE.

    The world does not end at the Equator.

    The one exception is an article talking about Antarctica.

    Although, I think it's particularly amusing that:

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  20. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Exactly Trippy, so across the world this January isn't the warmest on record now is it? yes,
    you are playing from the
    Jones CRU set of rules, ignore any data that doesn't agree with your preconceived conclusion,
    and tweak the rest.
     
  21. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Interesting analogy:

    http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175...ispatch/esUU (TomDispatch: The latest Tomgram)

     
  22. candy Registered Senior Member

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    What I know to be fact is that here in western PA we just had the snowiest Feb on record and have moved to the number 3 spot on the season list with a least a month to go. We did not see an average high temp all month. I am tired of cold and snowy and do not want to hear the words global warming again until it atleast gets back to average highs.
     
  23. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    Well here in Ont Canada we have had the most mild winter, I can remember in a long time.
    We barely got any snow, and what little we did melted quickly. We didn't even get that stretch of -20/-30 weather this yr. We sent everything over to the US this yr and we beat their ass at Hockey too!

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