I love you Ridley Scott: Alien Prequel confirmed for 2011

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  1. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    Ash was a last minute replacement for the science officer for the return trip to Earth. He broke quarantine protocol, and allowed Dallas to bring Kane back in the Nostromo. He concealed the alien embryo developing inside of Kane. He restrained Parker from attacking it immediately after it emerged from Kane. He was there to protect it. The crew were expendable.

    Ripley presses a button.

    Kane slides back into the diagnostic coffin.

    More buttons pressed.

    Display lights up again, showing the different parts of

    Kane's body.

    ASH

    I better get some intravenous

    feeding started. So far I can't

    tell what the Alien has absorbed

    from his system.

    The machine begins to process Kane's body.


    RIPLEY

    What's the stain on his lungs.


    The X-ray reveals a spreading dark blot in the chest cavity.

    At the center, the stain is completely opaque.


    ASH

    Whatever it is, it's blocking

    the X-ray.


    A long moment.

    The stain spreads.





    RIPLEY

    Did you ship out with Ash before.

    DALLAS

    First time. I went five hauls

    with another science man. Then

    two days before we left Thedus,

    replaced him with Ash.



    The transmission from the space jockey's ship was a warning, one the company had apparently already deciphered. Ripley was able to tell it was probably a warning within minutes of using Mother to try and decipher it.

    Ripley at her console, still working on transmission.

    Gets a readout.

    Looks worried.

    Speaks into communicator.


    RIPLEY

    Ash, tell Dallas Mother speculates

    that the noise is some kind of

    warning.


    After Dallas has been taken, and Ripley is the commanding officer, she gains access to Mother.

    Ripley plugs the key into the board.

    Data banks come to life.

    She sits at a console.

    Thinks for a moment.

    Then punches up a code.

    Nothing happens.

    Punches another combination.

    Nothing happens.

    Frustration.

    Another combination.

    One screen comes to life.

    Another combination.

    She moves to the second keyboard.

    Screen One spells out the question:

    Question: WHO TURNED ON AIR LOCK 2 WARNING SYSTEM.

    Response: ASH

    Another code.

    Question: IS ASH PROTECTING THE ALIEN.

    Response: YES

    New code.

    Question: WHY

    Response: SPECIAL ORDER 937 SCIENCE EYE'S ONLY


    ASH

    Special Order 937 in essence

    asked me to direct the ship to

    the planet, investigate a life

    form, possibly hostile and bring

    it back for observation. With

    discretion, of course.


    RIPLEY

    Why. Why not tell us.


    ASH

    Would you have gone.


    PARKER

    It wasn't in the contract.


    ASH

    My very point.


    RIPLEY

    They wanted to investigate the

    Alien. No matter what happened

    to us.



    ASH

    That's unfair. Actually, you

    weren't mentioned in the order.


    All from Dan O'Bannon's screenplay, http://www.godamongdirectors.com/scripts/alien1.shtml

    There is no reason to think Ash had been communicating with Earth, or that he could. The magic technology they use to travel faster than light apparently didn't apply to communication technology. Ripley's distress signal from the shuttle was never picked up, so she drifted through space in suspended animation for fifty years.

    You may continue to argue that there was no foreknowledge of the Alien, but you'd be arguing against Dan O'Bannon's script.
     
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  3. Plazma Inferno! Ding Ding Ding Ding Administrator

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    Yes, the order that had been sent to Ash. He's been instructed to investigate the creature and bring it back to Earth at all costs, but I think he's still unaware of danger, like the rest of the crew.
    That's because company knows that xenomorphs are weapon, but they don't know their nature or potential.
    Also, when Ash realized how dangerous xenomorph is, he wouldn't do much because of order he received. Only Company could recall him, but as I said, Company doesn't know true nature of their weapon yet.

    Also, thank you for the post above.
     
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  5. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Repo, that isn't in the film. So it's not canon, it's apocrypha.

    I've listed the reasons why the film shows no foreknowledge.
     
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  7. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    ???????

    The differences between the script and the final film are trivial. In both, Ash was there because of the alien, and in both he protected it.

    This is from the film:

    Ripley: Ash, can you hear me? Ash?
    Ash: Yes, I can hear you.
    Ripley: What was your special order?
    Ash: You read it. I thought it was clear.
    Ripley: What was it?
    Ash: Bring back life form. Priority One. All other priorities rescinded.
    Parker: The damn company. What about our lives, you son of a bitch?!
    Ash: I repeat, all other priorities are rescinded.
    Ripley: How do we kill it Ash? There got to be a way of killing it, how - HOW do we do it?
    Ash: You can't.
    Parker: That's bullshit.
    Ash: You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? The perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility.
    Lambert: ... You admire it.
    Ash: ... I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.
    Parker: Look, I am, I've heard enough of this, and I'm asking you to pull the plug.
    [Ripley moves to turn Ash off, but he interrupts]
    Ash: Last words.
    Ripley: What?
    Ash: I can't lie to you about your chances, but... you have my sympathies.

    http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Alien_(film)
     
  8. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    That's a problem with the entire series: how is it growing so quickly? What is it eating? Is it just loaded with energy? Enough to increase its size so many times? Ridiculous. It just doesn't have the mass.
     
  9. superstring01 Moderator

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    I always sort of considered that it ate both organic and inorganic matter. We see how readily they can slice and dice walls, and whatnot. Sure, this is just my speculation, but it's obvious that it's a silicon based life form with organic pieces-parts. Could be just eating the walls and the various People McNuggets it finds.

    ~String
     
  10. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I suppose so. I'd just like to see some bite marks or crumbs or something.
     
  11. superstring01 Moderator

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    LOL!

    Or Xenomorph doo-doo!

    "Dude! Look what you stepped in!"

    :::acid shit sizzles away boots:::

    Though, I always consider the hive-alterings they did to the atmospheric processor on LV-426 to have, possibly, been caused (in part) by consumption.

    Then again, I'm just guessing.

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  12. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    What we need is for a Cylon base ship to encounter the xenomorph. With the ship infected, the hybrid desperately jumps through space and time, and ends up crash landing at Endor during the assault on the Death Star. This leads to chestbursters coming out of Ewoks, and the rebels and the Empire in alliance to fight the xenomorphs. You can then have jedis fighting alien queens, and with any luck, a middle aged Jar Jar getting a face hugger (the audience would go wild). "Meesa scared of deese tings! MMMMPPPHHH!"

    Maybe the Sith would form an alliance with the xenomorphs. A xenomorph learning the ways of the dark side of the Force. Makes about as much sense as the AvP stuff.
     
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  13. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    yeah more xenomorphs their so cute and cuddly
     
  14. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    the problem with the AVP movies was not in the general ideas(as the AVP computer games showed) but in the execution of the idea.
     
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  15. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, God, I would pay to see that. I really would.

    Anyway, since we speak of mismatches in sci-fi concept:

    http://www.fangoria.com/reviews/6-books/3706-star-wars-death-troopers-book-review.html

    Prepare to be dumbnified.
     
  16. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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  17. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    But none of that tells us when the special order was made. It doesn't fit that it was before they set out.

    Like I say, I've listed the reasons why foreknowledge doesn't fit with the plot.
     

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