If God is real, how would you know?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Jan Ardena, Apr 8, 2020.

  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Sounds like you believe God hates people as much as you do.
     
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  3. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Depending on which deity you're talking about, that might or might not be approximately accurate. If you noticed that nobody is correcting you, it's because they don't care. Remember, there might be some religious people, around, who find reason to not be seen disputing with you publicly, but, sure, that's probably not likely; there are plenty of atheists around who won't directly pick on the point because they need that kind of God to validate their argument; and there are also those who consider the mystery of those who find their greatest satisfaction in misery, and thus choose Zen.
     
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  5. arfa brane call me arf Valued Senior Member

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    The Monopoly Man who is God is also a miserable prick, because he hasn't given me a million dollars.

    On the other hand, the Zen of this God might be that if it validates an argument, is it still God?
     
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  7. Metwo Banned Banned

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    God is not HERE yet.
     
  8. pluto2 Valued Senior Member

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    God obviously isn't love, otherwise there wouldn't be so many poverty stricken, extremely sick, oppressed and homeless people on this planet.

    Christians are ever so fond of telling us that God is love, that he regards us as his children, that he came to die for our sins and that he wants everyone to be saved.

    Obviously, this is not true!

    If God is our omnipotent father, it would be trivial for him to save people from dying horrible deaths. If he cared for us like a father, he would make sure that none of us would have to suffer an eternity in hell or even need to suffer at all because extreme suffering obviously doesn't serve any good purpose at all. That’s what an actual loving parent does.

    https://www.beris.nl/2016/09/06/top-10-reasons-god-does-not-exist/

    http://www.argumentsforatheism.com/
     
  9. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    If there is a God, it must be a mathematical construct. I know it must be so, because we can explain the entire universe through mathematics.

    We know nothing of God, but we know something about the nature of the Universe as a "mathematical object', with mathematical properties.
    Thus, if there is a God, it must be mathematical in essence. That would be real to all of theoretical science, IMO.
     
  10. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    But all propositions of god contend it is infinite and we can not apply mathematics to infinity so maybe there is no mathematics and thing just happen and we suffer an illusion just because we rely on a human construct.
    Alex
     
  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    One can pose that question but IMO, universal "constants" are not illusionary. They are the rules by which things happen. And their consistency is demonstrable, both as logical and functional interactions between identifiable "values".
    Mathematics
    https://www.britannica.com/science/mathematics
     
  12. pluto2 Valued Senior Member

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    Money is everything and always was. Therefore the only God possibly existing is a money God.

    But the fact is that many people in the world are still living in poverty and are suffering because of it.

    So the fact stands that if any loving God existed who really cares about people then this world would not be so money-centered and people will not be not so focused on making money at any cost because modern people are basically self-centered money-making machines.
     

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