If God is real, how would you know?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Jan Ardena, Apr 8, 2020.

  1. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Not really.
    It just seems that way until the shit hits the fan.
     
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  3. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Hope - a feeling of expectation and desire for a certain thing to happen.

    You keep tossing them in and I keep hitting them out of the park. Too easy.
     
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  5. river

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    Conclusion . Jan Ardena .
     
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  7. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, really, Jan.

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  8. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    ???
     
  9. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    I disagree with that definition. Faith in God is knowing the truth of God.
     
  10. river

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    What truth of God ?
     
  11. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    He's a good lover?
     
  12. river

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    Absolutely .

    She is a good lover in return .
     
  13. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    The fact of the matter.
     
  14. river

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    river said:
    What truth of God ?

    That god is not a good lover ?
     
  15. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    That would totally ruin my faith!
     
  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    You might want to read the post again to find out the answer to that. It's right there in black and white.
    In part yes.
    It is a latent talent in many people. It, like all talent, is lost if it is not used and developed. Schools are, in general, the best places to do that.
     
  17. river

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    Indeed
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No, you can't. Religion is belief in a supernatural power. God is a supernatural power. If you believe in God, by definition you believe in religion.
     
  19. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Not necessarily.
    Religion is not just about belief.
    It is about lifestyle, ethics, perception, and all the other things that go to make us what are, how we act, and how we react.
    Jim Jones’s religion was a prime example.
    It turned out that the religion was antithetical to God. It was never about God. But people still believed in Jim Jones, who as it turned out, was the object of worship, hence his religion was practiced.
    Religion is not really something you believe in, from a theist perspective. God is the object of belief.
     
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  20. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Faith and truth are not the same thing. The truth in God lies in the facts of God, of which there are none. No facts, no truth.
     
  21. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Okay.
    But who learns nothing?
    How is it possible to survive?
    Do animals learn nothing?
    What is this based on?
     
  22. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Nor is science the same as knowledge.
     
  23. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Religion is the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods, a particular system of faith and worship. It doesn't say anything about lifestyle, ethics, perception, what you are, how you act or react. You're just making stuff up again.

    Both the Independent Assemblies of God International, a pentecostal Christian association and The Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), a Mainline Protestant Christian denomination are both religions in which Jim Jones was ordained. How can you say they weren't religions?
     

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