# Inappropriate people

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by birch, Apr 16, 2017.

1. ### timojinValued Senior Member

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Sorry, I don't keep up on local criminal news. But it is very shameful, but interesting that a guy in this society will do such thing, I can see Europa

3. ### RandwolfIgnorance killed the catValued Senior Member

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But why, timojin? What if she's REALLY hot? Wouldn't you want to taste that forbidden flesh? It's ok, you can say that you are really a real man and would like to "reach out and touch" her... Let me know.

5. ### billvonValued Senior Member

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Why is it any more shameful than someone who attacks a woman in a short skirt? You claimed a woman is just a decorated container. Why blame the men when you can blame the decoration on the container?

7. ### timojinValued Senior Member

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So As I see myself been suspended by BELL of some other from Oceanic continent wakes up., because the righteous DAVID AND RADWOLF marked me for inappropriate item of language.
I really don't know what is here inappropiate among adults, I did not use any foul words. SO BE IT>

8. ### timojinValued Senior Member

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Why are you pushing the issue again do you have a problem ? I don't I can control myself. I am a Christian. You seam have problem to get excited with something does not belong to you.

9. ### RandwolfIgnorance killed the catValued Senior Member

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So can I tim... so can I... I just wish we could talk about this openly, right? I can control myself also, but when these girls come 'round in their miniskirts - well...

10. ### timojinValued Senior Member

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Ask yourself Have you not ever looked at a woman a lot revealing parts and become stimulated ? Jesus said If you have done , you actually did it in your heart

11. ### birchValued Senior Member

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you know how you can tell? this is just one scenario but you would be shocked the number of people out there who cross that gray line of boundaries that decent people don't. they will in one and first conversation ask your age and relationship status. it feels intrusive and rude. then i put myself in their shoes and realize i never do that unless they want to share personal information. i just fuking met you and don't know you at all. and it's so obvious, what does my age and relationship 'status' have to do with what we are talking about? nothing. it's just a ruse to be nosy and 'size' you up.

it's unbelievable, they will try to find out every personal thing about you like you are being interrogated with no consideration that they are being rude. they are too blinded by their narcissism and even if they weren't, they don't care if it upsets you. you are an object to them to see what they might be able to get away with.

12. ### billvonValued Senior Member

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Sure. But there's a LONG way from that to taking action. If that guy in the elevator thought "wow she's hot" and NOT stuck his leg between hers, then it would have been a non-issue. Had the criminals in the news story thought "I think hijabs are evil" and NOT attacked the person, then again - non-issue.
That's BS. I have been so angry at people that I have wished them harm; that does not mean I actually attacked them "in my heart." I have been greedy enough that I wished that I had what someone else had; that does not mean I am actually a thief "in my heart."

What you do - not what you feel - defines who you are. (And yes, Jesus said that too.)

13. ### JeevesValued Senior Member

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Thing is, if you persuade yourself that those boundaries are elastic, or grey, or overlapping, that goes both ways.
If you believe that thinking something forbidden is the same as "doing it in your heart" and doing something in your heart is the same as doing in real life,
then you can turn it around and say, Oh, well, I'm already guilty of thinking it; I won't be that much guiltier if I go ahead and do it, but at least I'll have had the pleasure.
I think this may be the mechanism for so many conservatives and christians to allow themselves so much sinning -
what the hey; might as well be hanged for a sheep as a lamb....
....and besides, she tempted me - Judge, Father, Lord - she wickedly, wantonly tempted me by turning fourteen...

14. ### timojinValued Senior Member

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It all depends how much power you have above them. you will succumb to your desires.

15. ### birchValued Senior Member

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this is so weird. it's like you men are talking as if you can't control yourself from attacking or infringing on someone else's rights. as if it's open for debate.

like you are in a desert and there is a glass of water. you have your hands to relieve yourself if you need to, you have porn, you have prostitutes, you have girlfriends and wives. you have as much or more than what women have. you are goddamn full of shit.

16. ### Xelasnave.1947Valued Senior Member

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I hate to hear this, it is terrible.
Why not tell them first up you are a hooker and its $10,000 cash up front. Ask them if they can drive you to hospital because you feel a fit coming on... Kick them in the private parts. You should not have to put up with such bad behaviour. When they ask your status say you live with your protective brother to curb his violent streak. I feel very sorry for you. Alex 17. ### timojinValued Senior Member Messages: 2,920 The married man have only a wife, beyond that is immorality, Since you want to have equality and rights in this world the you have to face the consequence and live within them. 18. ### birchValued Senior Member Messages: 3,677 oh, only a wife. as if people are entitled to more. that's like me saying only a husband or boyfriend. you don't make sense with the first part, i don't even know what the fuck you are on about here. sounds like you got your logic in knots. let me untangle this for you: you need to know that you must live in a world with equality and rights and live within them. that means men are not entitled to more. every fuking woman you see you happen to like or think you do, does not belong to you or up for grabs or an object single or not just as any man i see i think is attractive or think i like, i am not entitled to him either. you are not entitled to people. they are not objects. no one has a right to violate other's rights or that infringe on human decency and respect and the other person's feelings and boundaries. let me make this clear, you weren't even entitled to a wife just as i am not entitled to a husband. if no one wanted to marry you, no one should have to just because you are alone. there are plenty of single people, both male and female, out there. some choose to be single, some single but don't want to be but either way, no one is entitled to have another human being. none of these people are entitled to a boyfriend or girlfriend either. it is all a choice. people don't and shouldn't be able to own anyone or force them. no one has a right to violate or push themselves on others either. it's rude, exploitive and selfish. relationships should be mutual. but the bottomline that everyone should have learned at two years old is: you can't have everything in life just because you want it and have no right to just because you do. understand? Last edited: Apr 19, 2017 19. ### billvonValued Senior Member Messages: 12,676 I won't. You might. If so, let's hope you are in a place where you can do no harm to people. Plenty of quite moral people have open marriages, get divorces and remarry. Yes, you do. One of those consequences is that you are not allowed to attack other people because you don't like what they are wearing. 20. ### exchemistValued Senior Member Messages: 6,132 OK, you are Borat and I claim my$500.

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21. ### DaveC426913Valued Senior Member

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There is an excellent meme out there that very eloquently addresses this archaically sexist view.

It's a picture of a woman, from head to knees. She is entirely nude. Not a stitch of clothes.

And painted across her midriff in giant bold letters, it says:

22. ### DaveC426913Valued Senior Member

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The take way here is: there is only one way to get consent to touch another person. That is if they explicitly give you consent with their words.

Her clothing is not an invitation to you.

23. ### JeevesValued Senior Member

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There are also social mores, rules of conduct, standard of decency, etiquette and common courtesy to guide us in our spatial placement, body language, hand gestures and verbal communications.
And if none of that works on you, try role reversal.