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To say "Get your head out of your ass!" is [_____]?

Poll closed Apr 30, 2017.
  1. Annoying

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  2. Belligerent

    1 vote(s)
    14.3%
  3. Rude

    3 vote(s)
    42.9%
  4. Sexual Harassment

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    0.0%
  5. (I need an "Other")

    3 vote(s)
    42.9%
  1. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    If I tell you to, "Get your head out of your ass!" or some other such phrase, do we all actually have some idea what that means?

    For instance, most of us might say it's annoying and truculent, simply rude, or even a ghastly offense.

    But would you call it sexual harassment?

    There's an obscure reason I ask; your input is greatly valued.
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    It means "pay more attention to me" or "give up on your incorrect beliefs."
     
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  5. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    There is no sexual connotation to this expression.

    It is indelicate, sure. And as it is an insult it could, like other insults, play a role in a campaign of sexual harassment.
     
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  7. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    "Get my head out of my ass" would peobably good advice to me.
     
  8. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    NO
     
  9. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    I wouldn't call this sexual harassment any more than I would the phrase "Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya"...
     
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  10. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    Kittamaru, thanks! I love phrases like that.

    Tiassa, it's just rude, not sexual.
     
  11. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    When someone says, or screams, "Get your head out of your asshole"
    It is usually a sign of exasperation. the phrase is by it's nature destructive. It is most likely intended to stop an activity or thought pattern.
    By itself, it is mostly worthless and a destructive communique.
    Once said, then something constructive must follow.

    It is not, in and of itself sexual harassment. However if the person told to get his/her head out of his/her asshole is looking to be combative, it may be used as a lever to claim sexual harassment.
    (which no sane or unbiased person would take seriously)
     
  12. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Not at all. It's just a graphic way of saying "Pay attention"!
     
  13. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    This is what happened to you T - assuming that I am reading this right...
     
  14. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    No, this is all hypothetical, as such. More accurately, I am attempting to identify appropriate metrics contrasting a formerly robust comprehension suffering poor optics juxtaposing aesthetic conventional wisdom against insurgent potentials insinuating fallacy, that I might actually get out in front of an issue, for once.
     
  15. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Really? I mean, really?

    I love reading your stuff... However, comprehending it sometimes requires a more robust exercise than I am willing to execute when juxtaposed with the suffering induced by my current hangover. The effort could arouse a potential insurgency amongst my three remaining brain cells. OTOH, conventional wisdom suggests this is fallacious reasoning - and the optics would not be aesthetically pleasing...

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    Anyway, no way, no how, is "get you head out of your ass" sexual harassment - at least in my world.
     
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  16. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    And you

    the second-person personal pronoun, both singular and plural, and both nominative and oblique case, in Modern English

    blah blah blah blah

    (you get the representative optical illustration)

    sir have one more neurone than myself

    I defer to your wisdom but keep the hangover

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  18. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Click to tell 'em.

    Well, you know.

    I just needed to triple-check on an idea of a standard before the question arose.

    You know how I can be with that bit about various people not being able to tell some abstract difference?

    To the one, I have an obligation to take certain complaints precisely seriously.

    To the other, there are eventually common standards by which I might have an obligation to call bullshit on such a complaint. This circumstance arises if one deliberately forsakes seemingly apparent functional differences.

    e.g.

    • Ever get your nuts caught in the wringer?

    • Snag your sac straddling the fence?

    • Your ass ever hurt for any reason?​

    (Not that I actually want those answers; that's not my point.)​

    Every once in a while, if I should attend various standards, it helps to know what those standards are.

    To wit, if I have to choose between a technical standard by which I rule a certain expression inappropriate merely because it involves certain words or ideas, to the one, and the idea that this, that, or the other is a common saying in my society, to the other ... look, there is a lot of irony in the discussion of political correctness and what people are actually willing to complain about, but we can't just casually discard those issues because we personally think they're silly. The essential question has something to do with whether or not mere mention of dirty parts or naughty bits should be stricken. I'm not willing to pick on any one version of complaint, though; it's just that this comes up often enough, and having one's head up one's ass was the first obvious mix of rhetoric and relevant body parts to mind in a recent consideration.

    And now I have a result that is, in spinspeak, out in front of the issue.

    And, yes, I personally am encouraged by the general result, which in turn reminds that, at least in this, people generally can tell the difference.
     

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