is it true that the quran says jesus didnt really die on the cross?

Discussion in 'Comparative Religion' started by akoreamerican, May 22, 2015.

  1. spidergoat Speak of the Devil Valued Senior Member

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    It depends why they believe. Irrational faith is harmful, even if innocent.

    I don't consider having a conversation to be harassment, but for the most part, evangelizing isn't my problem with religion. I expect people who believe certain things to care that other people don't believe those things, when the consequences to non-belief are the worst one can imagine. I just happen to think they are wrong. I'm just as evangelical about my atheism as religious people are about their religion (maybe a little less, I'm not going door-to-door, or standing on a street corner shouting, or going to foreign countries to convince them I'm right).
     
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  3. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    i don't consider having a conversation to be harassment either so i guess we agree on that. extremists start out by being angry at people who believe in something different. i don't go door to door or grab everyone i see and tell them my beliefs are right. i only try to act honestly according to my beliefs.
     
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  5. spidergoat Speak of the Devil Valued Senior Member

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    I honestly don't care what people believe, but beliefs have consequences in this life. Those consequences that are the reason I get angry about certain beliefs being proliferated. For instance, that women are lesser beings because they came from Adam and are responsible for original sin. Such a belief would be merely curious but for the fact that it's used to justify sexism.
     
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  7. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    the bible doesn't state that eve is responsible for original sin, it tells us what her actions were, and the concept of original sin is not stated in the bible either, its merely interpreted that way by certain people. i believe in just the teachings of jesus, not paul, or the old testament.
     
  8. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Considering the topic, did Jesus teach that He died on the cross?
     
  9. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    i don't think that was part of his curriculum, but he said he was going to die
     
  10. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    I can predict my own death too.
     
  11. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    The greatest faith is passive. Both non-resistance in the bible, and ascension into paradise from earth in the Quran are passive acts. Ultimately the outcome is the same, Jesus went to Heaven. ​
     
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  12. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    thats awsome dude. what else can you do?
     
  13. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    I can spot a nutbar at twenty paces.
     
  14. akoreamerican Registered Senior Member

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    nutbar as in a crazy person? or a snack? if you don't detect any nutbar when looking in a mirror i dont think your ability is very impressive
     
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  15. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    I seldom eat crazy persons.
     
  16. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    That should put some people at ease.
     
  17. StrangerInAStrangeLa SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Can't always? When should any god be trusted?

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  18. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Like anybody else, when he demonstrates that he is trustworthy.
     
  19. StrangerInAStrangeLa SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe some Muslims think it unbelievable that a religious text would say he did die on a cross.
    Are you actually unaware that religions contradict each other.

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  20. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    As one com

    As one comedian put it about warring religions "Like tantrum school kids chanting 'My invisible god is better than your invisible god'"
     

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