www.fahrenheit911movie.com You tell me if that's sad or funny, I usually love to mock cheney and bush but they're just making it too easy here. Are they seriously THAT worried about one film maker?
Good question. What jerkoffs. I'd say sad wins out in the end. I could actually see this having a negative impact on the campaign (most likely marginal, but still). If somebody who had been going to vote for Bush decided to go looking for the movie site and instead of searching just put's in the name, they might change their mind if they're wavering in their loyalty. Nah, probably not. edit: I imagine that Moore already has his own site somewhere, so this would just be taking the possibilty from a fan-based site. Stickin' it to the people with your campaign contributions. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Is that ... really real? I mean ... couldn't anyone with a credit card get that domain and pull this stunt? Or is there some press release I've missed, as well?
I doubt that someone could get Georgewbush.com, I guess all they'd have to get would be the former though, huh? Then just put in a redirect to Bush's site. Hell, who knows. It wouldn't surprise me if it was real. Maybe that's the point. Moore might be doing it as another publicity stunt.
I suppose this could be some elaborate scheme to make the prez look pathetic but I doubt the link could remain active even this long if it didn't have the say-so of bush's team... could it? hmmm... I just don't know, my knowledge of the technical side of this kind of thing is limited so I'll have to leave that speculation to someone that knows more about this stuff.
I was like, clicking the link thinking to myself *I don't get it*, then it hit me like a brick to the head...... Imagine the circumstance if the link was www.persecutedjews.com and you clicked to find yourself on the Volkswagen site. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
fireguy: LOL. in general as a response to the site: Wow I hate politics. That stuff on that site is so goddamned gross, but I don't know how you can avoid doing it if you buy into the whole two party system thing, which is where the power structure is, so you sort of have to buy in. Seriously, I think that site is almost as pathetic as moveon.org. It's freakin crazy to me that this is the kind of shit that has evolved but lo and behold, the "best and brightest" available are all trying to offer a political teat to as much of the bell curve as possible. I mean really, that's what they're doing so what we're seeing is the results of so much statistical number crunching resulting in rules like "voters under 44 who eat fritos 2 times a week or more are 70% more likely to vote for bush in the presense of a cowboy hat" or crap like that. Moveon has to be the result of the same kind of shit to the socialist agenda. I suppose if you fall outsidet of the bulk of the bellcurve, is that ... You know nevermind, I bet it's more about how little sway those damned websites really have. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! What you see is desperation maybe? Shit i don't know it seemed like a good idea.
it's not the site itself that disgusts me, it's linking it using a percieved threat's motto/domain name/party/etc. Is it just a sad attempt to increase hits? Is it in hopes of redirecting potential moore fans to the republican point of view? Is bush actually afraid of moore? It makes me want to weep at the state of politics. Moore should be below bush's notice at all this just makes him look weaker, it's kind of pathetic.
the site is pretty bad though. ick. hey did you do a "whois? on the dns entry? EDIT: Oh and maybe I shouldn't have commented on the site directly pardon, but I was dumbfounded by the image of W in a cowboy hat on that page. I stupefied me to the point that I wrote them a note about how demeaning it is to their cause to further propagate the cowboy image.
I know so little about sites and how they work I have no idea what "whois? on the dns entry?" even means.
Verify the case-sensitive code to see the identity of the responsible party. http://www.register.com/whois_verif...0c0487826be08a3618e0761b35f7ec13b6eb79d3c1b25
Ok first off I'm a computer geek and yes I'm a bush supporter but let me give you some facts. 1. Anyone can register a domain name. 2. the only way to take a name away from someone is to have a legal trade mark on that name PRIOR to it being registered AND prove that they registered it "in bad fiath" 3. Anyone that owns a name can point that name at ANY IP adress they like. The owner of the site they point it to has NO ability to prevent this redirection. 4. fenix# whois fahrenheit911movie.com Whois Server Version 1.3 Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information. Domain Name: FAHRENHEIT911MOVIE.COM Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC. Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com Name Server: PARK13.SECURESERVER.NET Name Server: PARK14.SECURESERVER.NET Status: ACTIVE Updated Date: 21-apr-2004 Creation Date: 21-apr-2004 Expiration Date: 21-apr-2005 Registrant: Alex Emes PO Box 125 Lakemont, New York 14857 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com Domain Name: FAHRENHEIT911MOVIE.COM Created on: 21-Apr-04 Expires on: 21-Apr-05 Last Updated on: 21-Apr-04 Administrative Contact: Emes, Alex alextemes@hotmail.com PO Box 125 Lakemont, New York 14857 United States 6072435784 Fax -- Technical Contact: Emes, Alex alextemes@hotmail.com PO Box 125 Lakemont, New York 14857 United States 6072435784 Fax -- Domain servers in listed order: PARK13.SECURESERVER.NET PARK14.SECURESERVER.NET Alex is obvioulsy a bush supporter and or a Moore hater and pointed that name at Bushs site as a private person. However he sux because he thought of this before me...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Above and beyond that Moore is a complete idiot. This was reged in April. Moore had almost a yr to snatch up the 5-10 relevent names to prevent this sortof thing and he didn't. It costs like 8-20$ per YER per name to do this. Considering his movie budget was in the millions I doubt it was a money issue.
The FBI should be at your door presently. The ones you have to worry about are the ones you don't see. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! You just figuring this out? I thought everyone had that straightened out by now. The only confusion should be whether it's an Australian or Canadian based site. Look at the bottom of every page. The answer is Canadian, Porf's in Australia going to school.
I'd known he was canadian but what did suprise me is that he's from western canada like myself. Believe it or not this is bush country, you can think of the provinces between quebec and british columbia as sort of a canadian version of texas (politically and ideologically). Needless to say Porf and I are in the political minority here. So, to all you americans: don't believe all the press you hear out of canada regarding bush, he's a hero to most in this neck of the woods (god help us). I think he's a nightmare personally but I could be pelted with rocks and garbage for saying it out loud around here.
Everything I posted is public information. I didn't use my super secrete bat computer to get it. I went ot a unix prompt on my server and typed "whois doamin.com" and there it is. MANY domain reg sits have web based whois services. If for some reason one or the other of these ppl don't want it posted I apolagize accept there tough out of luck cause its EASY info to get reguardless of what I do. As far as the owner being a Canuk goes. First off I found this site like 36 hours ago...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! 2nd off I'm VERY well aware of the fact that canada is completely divided in its polatics. Ahh I see what your saying buffy. Sorry had to read it 2 times. Yeah if your liberal living in west Canada your not exactly going to be popular. Heh I see the flags at the bottom now. I just went right to the source when I asked myself the question of who owns it. Sortof hard to fake DNS records. I don't even realy mind ppl disagreeing with Bush. Actualy me personal I disagreee with him on more than I agree. The whole gay marridge thing is just a bunchof symantics. I think both sides are idiots. Religion is just mass brian washing and Bush is a classic mindless drone in that sense. The flip side is that he's a strong personality. He's got the balls to take on the terrorist and he's useing them. right now that is what NEEDS to be done. So He has my support because that is what is important. If Kerry wasn't a spinless moron then I might consider it.
(in a sing-song voice) -the terrorist came from Saudi Arabia not Iraq..now they are in Iraq because of the occupation. ..if only the armchair chickenhawks would think beyond what the war profiteers-our prez and vp- chant at them 24/7.
I would agree but the thing is, I don't actually see him going after terrorists. I see him attacking iraq, I see your civil liberties being eroded, I see life for immigrants of a mid eastern persuasion getting a might difficult but I see very little actual damage being done to terrorists. So, while I agree he's got balls, personality and a will to fight terrorism. It seems (from up here) that his approach is not only misdirected and unsuccessful but dangerous to your way of life and international reputation. ok, sorry... my sermon/rant is over.
I view his attacking Iraq as a way of removeing a posable safe heaven/weapon supply. we all know UBL and crew don't get along with Saddam. However the one thing they both agree on is that they both hate the US. Even if there was a 1 in 10 million chance Saddam realy would give the terrorist useable WMD then it had to be delt with. Better now then later. Much more importantly alot of the terrorists have rushed to Iraq to help "liberate it" those terrorists are being killed and captured. Ask any millitary person and they will tell you make ppl fight you on your terms in a place of your choosing. That is exactly what Bush has done. Hes given them something to focus on. The terrorist know whats at stake. A free democratic USA friendly Iraq is something they don't want. They are going to do everything they can to try and stop that. So we fight. I mean let face it if we aren't fighitng there then were? here in the US? In Kewait? Afganistan? There are good and bad points to Iraq. I even have my doubts about some things. however in the end we set them free from a dictator. Alot of ppl say we aren't liborators etc. However time will show what we realy are or aren't. I guess what I'm saying is Iraq can't be called successful or unsuccesful YET. Its not even close to over. Which I think is my whole problem in a nut shell. Everyone is rewriteing history before it has even finished. Calling it a fialure saying that its caused more problems than its started. Yet its not over. What he's doing is a BIG gamble. Some of the ppl on here are right. It could backfire in a big way. It could also pay off in a big big way. That is what life is about taking risks. We have tried for 15+ yrs to ignore the problem and its done no good. The end result was 911. So its time to take some risks. which is why we should give Bush another 4 yrs to finish what he started. Kerry isn't going to finish this. He's going to make it worse. I won't go into why but I think you already know. You can't go up and punch someone in the face then say "oops I'm sorry". We have to follow through and finish it. That means realy proving to Iraq that it was a liberation not oocupation. That means hunting the terrorist down like dogs.
