# Man literally vanishes into thin air

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by faceurchin, Mar 11, 2018.

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## Do you think this case is real?

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1. ### Gawdzilla SamaValued Senior Member

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No, no, no. The first question to ask is "Did anybody see the flying saucer that snatched him up."

3. ### Michael 345Next mythical choc bunnies for mystic who diedValued Senior Member

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Pleases supply the formulas which indicate the laws which show things can just vanish

5. ### Magical RealistValued Senior Member

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Please supply the formulae which indicate the laws which show things cannot just vanish.

7. ### NotEinsteinRegistered Senior Member

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That's actually quite simple. The laws are known as "conservation laws", as in: conservation of energy, conservation of lepton number, etc. The associated formulae are also quite trivial:
Define $E$ as the total energy contained within a closed system. Then:
$E(t_1)=E(t_2)$, where $t_1$ and $t_2$ are two arbitrary moments in time.
And the same for lepton number, etc.

Done!

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Right...

9. ### Beer w/StrawTranscendental Ignorance!Valued Senior Member

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Erm...

Do you know, or anyone, if the universe is an open or closed system?

:EDIT:

But about trucks suddenly disappearing, yeah I'm totally on board with that.

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10. ### Magical RealistValued Senior Member

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Closed or open, there's nothing keeping something from vanishing and appearing in another place. Electrons do it all the time.

11. ### Gawdzilla SamaValued Senior Member

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MR is the great defender of nonsense responses.

12. ### Beer w/StrawTranscendental Ignorance!Valued Senior Member

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Well, for insurance purposes, my truck wasn't covered for vanishing into one of an infinite number of parallel universes.(It may have just even gone outside this universe but would take lots of effort to get it back.)

But hey, sucks to be me then.

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13. ### Magical RealistValued Senior Member

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"In insurance circles, an act of God is defined as any accident or event not influenced by man. They are accidents caused by nature. Hurricanes, floods, hail, tsunamis, wildfires, earthquakes and tornados are all considered acts of God."--- https://www.google.com/search?q=ins.....69i57j0l5.5424j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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15. ### NotEinsteinRegistered Senior Member

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It's only the most basic fundament of physics, so yes: it's right.

Not for sure, but it's unclear what an "open universe" would be open to? Suffice it to say, there's currently no reason to believe the universe is an open system (i.e. it's compatible with a closed one).

Ooh, you're talking about teleportation! That's not the same as things vanishing.

16. ### Gawdzilla SamaValued Senior Member

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Yeah, like those 16 Seventh Day Adventists who got killed by lightning that hit their church.

"Atheists won the fight when Christians started puyting lightning rods on churches." Somebody.

17. ### Beer w/StrawTranscendental Ignorance!Valued Senior Member

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I believe it is said the observable universe is a closed system. And I think that makes enough sense without some reference...

Jesus did steal my truck, though.

18. ### Michael 345Next mythical choc bunnies for mystic who diedValued Senior Member

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Thanks

I'm currently on holiday Bali and not in the mood to play Ping Pong with MR

19. ### faceurchinRegistered Member

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His family, including his wife. You can read the story by Googling ''Ambrose Bierce the difficulty of crossing a field''

20. ### MusikaRegistered Member

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How are the circumstances different from "Man apparently disappears into thin air."? What special criteria warrant the use of literal, in this circumstance?

21. ### spidergoatValued Senior Member

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Anecdotal reports aren't compelling. What's the ev

22. ### MusikaRegistered Member

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Given that it is was published about 120 years ago, 30 years after it is reputed to have occurred (so even the grandchildren of those directly involved are likely to be deceased) I guess its because its more pragmatic to engage time and money searching for other missing things ... like one or two malaysian airplanes, for example.

But if all other internet mysteries and contemporary problems of the world were to miraculously disappear overnight, perhaps the first mysterious disappearance to investigate would be that of, Bierce, the author.

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1846670_1846800_1846845,00.html

23. ### faceurchinRegistered Member

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Because he was walking in a field. There was nothing there to occlude him from view. He was in plain sight and literally blinked out of existence, similar to how you have a model in a 3D program, select the model and hit 'delete' then it just disappears. If he just vanished as in he ran away and wasn't seen again, then this case would not be so mysterious.

Vanishing out of existence without a flash, sound or explosion would also violate several laws of physics on a macro scale. The witnesses did not report any sound, explosion or flash of light when he vanished. If the atoms in his body all suddenly turned into energy then they would have heard or seen something. But they didn't. He just popped out of existence right in front of their eyes, and in plain sight.