Married life is stupid...

You guys don't understand. Imagine this:

You're on a Desert Island, there is a line drawn in the sand which you're told you're not allowed to cross, and on the other-side of the line, is everything you could ever need, you can see all of this yet you cannot have it, until you do some pointless rituals like making a fire, hunting your own food, yet you can see everything you need on the other-side of the line, and you know you hunting making a fire is all pointless it's only a ritual, you'll do it for a few days, after a few days you're getting increasingly hungry, you want to cross the line to the other-side but the guard stops you, the next few days you plead with the guard to let you go to the other side but he refuses and says you need to do more before you can have all of this stuff. Two weeks later, you're getting mad you're swearing at him telling him to let you in, 4 weeks later you're threatening him to attack him, 6th week you're using the resources you have to manufacture a weapon 8th week you're stabbing that guard violently and ripping his organs to shreds with your weapon, just to get to the otherside.

Thats human nature for you. Eventually you'll want it so bad, you'll just take it.
 
A monk was walking along a river trying to find a bridge or a ford so he could cross it. After walking along the river for a while and seeing no way to cross he saw another monk on the far side. He stopped and called to the other monk:

"How can I get to the other side?"

The other monk stopped, thought for a moment and called back:

"You ARE on the other side!"
 
Money can't buy real happiness.

The rewarding life comes from what you do instead of what you have.
 
No, but if you wish to remain together for as long as you both live, what you specifically mean by "together" will needs be well - defined. In the US there are very serious repercussions - large benefits and costs involved - for both parties, depending on whether or not you have that legal contract between you. "Terms of endearment", as it were. :eek:

Inheritance, contracts, liability, ownership, insurance coverage, child custody, probate court, taxes and the like. This is actually the driving issue behind the gay marriage controversy.
 
Muslim said:
4 weeks later you're threatening him to attack him, 6th week you're using the resources you have to manufacture a weapon 8th week you're stabbing that guard violently and ripping his organs to shreds with your weapon, just to get to the otherside.

Thats human nature for you. Eventually you'll want it so bad, you'll just take it.
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So let me get this straight, you are willing to do the work involved in manufacturing a weapon and make the effort required to slaughter a guard, who is likely to be trained in some level of combat and sure to put up a struggle.but you are not willing to hunt aninmals for food,not willing to try gathering berries, and not willing to to plant any seeds. Interesting.,
 
seagypsy said:
So let me get this straight, you are willing to do the work involved in manufacturing a weapon and make the effort required to slaughter a guard, who is likely to be trained in some level of combat and sure to put up a struggle.but you are not willing to hunt aninmals for food,not willing to try gathering berries, and not willing to to plant any seeds. Interesting.,
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no way, fuck that shit. I'd rather die fighting a guard, then eating some posing ass berries or getting killed by a animal and hunting for food.
 
Muslim said:
So some years ago after my mom and dad threatened to cut off my funding if I din't get married I decided to get married (worst decision ever) firstly, sex is overrated when you can have sex with someone whenever you want, sometimes they don't want to have sex or visa a versa it's seldom there is a time when you both want sex at the same time, like after a year you start having sex once a week and start making excuses not to have sex, like going to sleep. Secondly, you can't get a good nights sleep, you'll once in a while get an elbow in the eye etc, or snoring loudly. Then, you can't get high on cocaine or alcohol like you could before, you can't be out for too long before she's calling you, you periodically have a massive argument stop talking to each other.

Now I ask what the hell is the point of all of this, my life was great before I got married I could drink, do cocaine and bring sexy girls home and have sex with them, and best of all you can tell them to piss off in the morning. Now its like, you have to think about the other person and their feelings. What is the point, why would anyone want to get married, its just a stupid idea for a man it's just a stupid idea, being married means you can't do the things you used to do before, and now you can only have sex with one woman, whom you don't even want to have sex with most of the time anyway. You always want to screw her sister, or the neighbour etc.

But then, you can't be without your wife more then a 3 or 4 days you start to miss her, you start to miss the cuddling etc, I don't know what the fuck is wrong with me, the worst part is, my father doesn't give me anymore money, I have to work myself, and the worst part is my dad is rich so I just siphon funds out of his bank account. Before I was married he would just let me take his credit card and use money how I wanted, not he always accuse me of doing drugs, I used to do drugs before too, now when I spend so much money he gets pissed off before I was married he didn't care he would give me as much money as I needed, new cars, a house now he is just such a cunt, just waiting for him to die already. Am just so sick and tried of this shit, my life's so hard, I can't do what I want to do.

Anyone else feel the same?
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This is your future buddy! So what you need to do is drive home..sit on the coach...grab a drink and (pause for dramtic effect) RE-EVALUTATE YOUR FUCKING LIFE!! YOU MARRIED FOR THE MONEY!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji01gRYQcHo
 
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Muslim said:
You guys don't understand. Imagine this:

That's human nature for you. Eventually you'll want it so bad, you'll just take it.
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I don't believe that, at least for the majority of us that don't wish to harm others for our own personal gain. By your rules society doesn't stand a chance.
 
Muslim said:
So some years ago after my mom and dad threatened to cut off my funding if I din't get married I decided to get married
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Muslim,

I wonder if yours is an Arab arranged marriage or you really fancy your wife.
Did you meet your wife or were your parents in charge of finding a wife for you?

Supposing that in next months your mom and dad tell you they would like to have grandchildren, what will you do if they threaten to cut off your funding again?
 
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domesticated om said:
Marriage's only real use if for raising children IMO. Other than that, it kinda sucks.
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Let me see if I can offer another reason.

Suppose your the man who works and wants a non-working woman to help take care of your domestic needs such as housekeeping, fixing meals, shopping, sex,,,etc., and you don't have any children, but have had this arrangement for 5 years.

If you break up she has nothing and no job and skills experience now to support herself.

Why souldn't she be entitled to half of what was accumulated during the 5 years you were together?
 
That is called "palimony" these days, and yes, he would be liable to pay that. ;)
 
KilljoyKlown said:
Let me see if I can offer another reason.

Suppose your the man who works and wants a non-working woman to help take care of your domestic needs such as housekeeping, fixing meals, shopping, sex,,,etc., and you don't have any children, but have had this arrangement for 5 years.

If you break up she has nothing and no job and skills experience now to support herself.

Why shouldn't she be entitled to half of what was accumulated during the 5 years you were together?
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Let's be realistic.

1. First off, the whole reason a woman would take up a role as a housewife is when children are involved. Its a form of labor division defined by the male performing breadwinner duties, and the female doing the myriad of domestic chores that are too challenging to be handled by one person. This is because the childcare typically involves a lot more micromanagement, personal presence, and scheduling that conflicts with employment. The later stages of pregnancy and the earlier stages of child rearing in and of themselves totally prevent employment.

2. We are currently ~50 years or so into the legacy of the women's lib movement. Women now routinely attend college, and establish their own careers. They are also empowered with their own money, own businesses, and buy their own things. The whole "kitchen" thing is so antiquated now that people use it as a joke.

3. There is no reason for any division of labor between a man and woman if no children are involved.
In the modern age, anybody can effortlessly toss clothes/detergent in a washing machine and press start. It's also relatively easy to load dishwashers, sweep floors, and whatever else. In fact - I had to do a damn load of dishes and laundry before I submitted this post LOL.
Two people are not going to generate a lot of dishes/laundry/mess anyway....... not so when children are involved. There is also the absence of expense as far as children go (two people with jobs can pretty frequently eat out). There's also no need to stock up on massive quantities of food when there are no kids.
Sex (at least in this day and age) is not "provided" by anyone. It's typically two people acting on their desires.


I agree that there should be alimony paid in dissolution of a marriage where there was only one breadwinner and that sort of arrangement was established. However, you're going to have to agree with me that it totally sucks. In fact, having any sort of garnishment on your income is unpleasant.
It sucks even worse when you realize that all you're doing essentially is "breaking up" with the person.. except now you are legally obligated to pay that person money.
 
domesticated om said:
Let's be realistic.

1. First off, the whole reason a woman would take up a role as a housewife is when children are involved. Its a form of labor division defined by the male performing breadwinner duties, and the female doing the myriad of domestic chores that are too challenging to be handled by one person. This is because the childcare typically involves a lot more micromanagement, personal presence, and scheduling that conflicts with employment. The later stages of pregnancy and the earlier stages of child rearing in and of themselves totally prevent employment.

2. We are currently ~50 years or so into the legacy of the women's lib movement. Women now routinely attend college, and establish their own careers. They are also empowered with their own money, own businesses, and buy their own things. The whole "kitchen" thing is so antiquated now that people use it as a joke.

3. There is no reason for any division of labor between a man and woman if no children are involved.
In the modern age, anybody can effortlessly toss clothes/detergent in a washing machine and press start. It's also relatively easy to load dishwashers, sweep floors, and whatever else. In fact - I had to do a damn load of dishes and laundry before I submitted this post LOL.
Two people are not going to generate a lot of dishes/laundry/mess anyway....... not so when children are involved. There is also the absence of expense as far as children go (two people with jobs can pretty frequently eat out). There's also no need to stock up on massive quantities of food when there are no kids.
Sex (at least in this day and age) is not "provided" by anyone. It's typically two people acting on their desires.


I agree that there should be alimony paid in dissolution of a marriage where there was only one breadwinner and that sort of arrangement was established. However, you're going to have to agree with me that it totally sucks. In fact, having any sort of garnishment on your income is unpleasant.
It sucks even worse when you realize that all you're doing essentially is "breaking up" with the person.. except now you are legally obligated to pay that person money.
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Actually I agree with every thing you just said. But that means you should be choosy about the women you hook up with in the first place. Even without children in the picture, some men want a non-working woman in their relationship. In that relationship based on how long and what duties the woman had, she should be entitled to something. Also, maybe you are the house husband and have been devoted to supporting your working partner in the home. Should you be dumped with nothing but the clothes on your back and what you started with at the beginning of the relationship?
 
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