Millennials...

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  1. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    What best describe the group categorized as "Millennials"?

    Beards and flannel shirts without the ability to change a tire? Wanting to "make a difference" without having to put in any effort?

    Those who are depressed but who have a Facebook persona that is "fantastic!"

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  3. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Every bearded millennial I know can change a tire. So can the unbearded ones, if they are female.

    I suspect - not sure, but maybe - that a couple of the unbearded male ones would have trouble changing a tire.

    They are all on Facebook, though, and none of them have depressive Facebook identities afaik (not on myself, so that's secondhand).
     
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  5. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    That's the point (to the extent that I have one

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    ) Their FB identities are upbeat even when they aren't actually up beat. It's more like they have to show the world that everything is great all the time even when it isn't.

    I do agree that it's more likely than the females are more likely to be able to change a tire than the males.

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  7. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    “O tempora, o mores!”
     
  8. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Just checked with the SO, and am informed that at least two of the millenials in my circles have kind of downbeat, depressive, life-sucks Facebook pages. She's worried about them.

    So she is making special efforts to involve us in their lives.

    Which may, if it's a common response of aunts to such things, explain the prevalence of upbeat Facebook profiles.
     
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  9. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    The newest generation always sucks....ask Plato.
     
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  10. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    I have both a beard and a flannel shirt and I know how to change a tire but I don't have a vehicle. Mind you, I'm from a completely different millennium.
     
  11. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    You must be Generation X?

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  12. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    More like W.
     
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  13. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Milennials: grown up and obsessed with technology and the immediacy of everything; generally unequipped to deal with the hardships of current reality; strong sense of self-entitlement; more socially aware but tend toward "political correctness"; acutely aware that their future will not be a better version of the previous, but potentially radically different.

    Yes, gross generalisations all, but they're what spring to mind.
     
  14. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    They are working harder and getting less for their efforts. If they are lucky, they might share a studio apartment with only two other roommates. We've screwed them pretty good over these past 20 years. Yep, their expectations are high, which is a good thing considering what they've been give
     
  15. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    People born somewhere between the early 1980s and the late 1990s/early 2000s.

    There are no clearly-defined birth-year boundaries for this group.
     
  16. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    I guess Millenials are like the 90s, end of 80s, beginning of 2000s.

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  17. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Who says they are working harder? I wouldn't necessarily say they are working less hard, but harder? Not at my workplace, they're not.

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    And they're paid the same as any other person doing the same job, millennial or otherwise.
    Depends where they want to live, to be honest. If I wanted to live where my parents did then I'd have been in the same boat as that. But I found somewhere that I could afford at the time.
    But it is harder now, for sure, if they want to own property. But renting remains an option for most, albeit unlikely to be a long-term route to saving enough to own your own.
    I don't think we've screwed them over at all. Things happen, people do what they can at the time to get ahead, or at least to a point they are comfortable, and work with what they have at that time. One generation may have one thing at the expense of closing off that opportunity for the next generation, but it works both ways. I can imagine where they lose in some areas they gain in others.
    High expectations are all well and good, but when they border on the delusional yet still inform one's attitude, that gets worrying.

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  18. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Millennials - disenfranchised, disillusioned, and disgusted. Grossly generalized, we have seen the greatest economic booms get squandered by the prior generation, with vast swathes of wealth hoarded among a small slice of individuals. Meanwhile, our parents and grandparents are increasingly without a proper retirement plan, relying on us to be their "retirement safety net" when they inevitably cannot work any longer and are unable to afford their nice houses. Meanwhile, we are increasingly left with only the option of renting, due to ever increasing student loan debts (which we were told since elementary school we HAD to "go to school to get a good job"... well, we went to school... where are those good jobs?!)

    We millennials are the first generation in... well, modern times really, to enjoy a lower standard of living than our parents. Yay!

    As a few citations:
    Millennials earn less, despite having higher education
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/02/opinion/sunday/were-making-life-too-hard-for-millennials.html?_r=0

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    http://www.theatlantic.com/business...d-and-more-diverse-than-their-parents/385029/
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/millennials_report.pdf
    No doubt, this has had far reaching implications in the housing industry... and much of the more affordable / available housing is being bought up by Foreign Investors...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ities-tax-them-for-it/?utm_term=.b14aadc0a751
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-danger-of-foreign-buyers-gobbling-up-american-homes-2015-10-08
    Yay for having thousands of houses sit vacant, owned by people who aren't even IN THIS COUNTRY while we have tens of thousands of people homeless on the streets, and untold thousands of young married couples paying exorbitant prices for rent because the "starter homes" they would have otherwise been looking at are owned by people who simply aren't using them, or are renting them out!

    Simply put... yeah, we Millennials have been rather screwed over, and quite efficiently. Tack on top of all that the fact that we as a nation continue to peddle this "trickle down economy" bullshit that has failed over and over again; we will have to pick up the slack to try and keep Social Security solvent (thanks primarily to continued "borrowing" (without intent to return) from its funding), our students are increasingly at risk of profit-hungry "institutions" posing as legitimate schools (Trump University anyone... or Corinthian?)... and some of the wealthiest of the prior generations outright BRAG about how adept they are at avoiding paying taxes via sheltering and other "creative accounting" methods... yeah, no wonder we Millennials are pissed.
     
  19. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    There! You see! An overinflated sense of entitlement, encapsulated right there!

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  20. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Not in my experience (and I employ a bunch of them.)
    One has a two bedroom apartment he shares with his fiance and dog. Another has a two bedroom apartment; she lives alone. A third just had his first baby - he has a house.
     
  21. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    They can change a tire, but they can't drive a stick.
     
  22. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Those I know are struggling. We had a house full of them living next door.
     
  23. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Neither can their parents, by and large - it's getting to where I can't even find a stick to buy as a winter truck.
     

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