misanthrope

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by birch, May 4, 2017.

  1. birch Valued Senior Member

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    yes, i have pretty much become a misanthrope. i dislike most people i have met and dislike most of humanity. i do like people but there are more people that i dislike than i do. that is just total blatant honesty on my part. i'm sure there are others who feel that way when they take off the tinfoil hat or when in those moments when political correctness is set aside. yeah, i don't like most people for various reasons just as there are people who don't like me for various reasons. is that offensive to some? perhaps but it's the truth. doesn't mean i'm going to commit a crime against someone. no right or wrong, that's just how i feel.

    do you like most people you have met or known? or do you think it's most often adjustment and tolerance and assume we do?

    note that surrounding yourself with your chosen friends and loved ones as a usual buffer does not count. i mean people in general.
     
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  3. DrKrettin Registered Senior Member

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    One problem here is that the people who receive most attention are probably the most unpleasant anyway. Trump is an obvious example, but politicians generally. To succeed in politics you need an ego so large that it prevents you from being a pleasant person. Perhaps there are exceptions. There may be millions of nice people out there whom you will never meet. The people you meet are a very small proportion of humanity, and perhaps they improve when you get to know them better. (This is not my experience by the way.) Are they a statistically significant number? How do you know that most of humanity is dislikable?
     
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  5. pluto2 Registered Senior Member

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    I feel the same way that you do about people.

    People just suck and attractive women ever more.

    Sometimes I feel that the faster humanity becomes extinct the better.
     
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  7. DrKrettin Registered Senior Member

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    Wow - this thread is going to be a hoot.

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  8. birch Valued Senior Member

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    i know there are probably millions of people that i will never meet that i could like mostly or a lot but that's wading through a lot of people. also, it seems it's when you get to know most people better that you find out you don't like them much or at all. general short civil interactions or keeping things rather superficial, it's neutral.

    i didn't say most of humanity is dislikable because everyone likes different types of people but i think, in general, people don't really like eachother much at all but are just being polite or just having conversation.

    for instance, i actually like crowds sometimes and i like people in theory, generally, than actually. i like large crowds when i go to a baseball game etc.

    i mean, if you go out and randomly would get to know everyone you meet or walk by you, i bet you wouldn't like them much or maybe even dislike them because either they are too different from you, offend you or annoy you in some way because people have faults. if everyone was likeable to most, then everyone could be friends and i've not seen that, have you?
     
  9. karenmansker HSIRI Registered Senior Member

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    I note that I now know more dead people than live ones . . . . .
    I also note that the more people I meet, the better I like my dog . . . . .
     
  10. geordief Registered Senior Member

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  11. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Welcome to the Republican Party!
     
  12. birch Valued Senior Member

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    i don't like them either
     
  13. Equinox Registered Member

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    Thanks for the honesty birch, I have felt like this many times. I think you may be like me, you try to to do your best by people (expecting them to do their best by you) and are left feeling disappointed. It leads to a pretty dark downward spiral of feeling horrible yourself but still trying to do the 'right thing' with people still treating you like crap - and despite this, persevering and still trying to do what is 'right' despite the ass holes in the world.

    What I have found personally - is that there will ALWAYS be ass holes in the world - no matter how nice you are, and the more 'nice' you are, the more 'ass holes' you will meet.

    But... I have also found, that when you are nice, and stop caring if people are nice back to you. Then things change a bit. Once I stopped expecting people to be nice to me just because I was a 'good' person - and was nice just for the sake of it, without giving a damn what anyone thought about me, I stopped attracting those 'ass holes' and when they did turn up - and tried to exploit my 'niceness' I was able to detect them and cut them off long before they could abuse my trust/niceness to their benefit and let them float away.

    For instance I used to have one guy who went clubbing/going out a lot - we was really friendly at work (almost best friends) but didn't really associate outside of work but when we did, he would invite me to go out at random intervals, not every weekend but just at random points in time. I noticed on the nights he invited me out he always seemed short of money, for drinks, or a taxi or food. It never occurred to me he might be 'one of those people' but on the one night I had no money to pay for a few 'extra's' and was short of money myself, they got in a mighty huff, walked off, and shunned me at work like a leper.

    I learnt something from that, worth more than a bit of money I laid out - I learned that 'little look' in the eye. And all the little jiggly motions people use when they want something from you.

    I also learnt how to accept and enjoy genuine people (and there are ALOT of them) who are not out for themselves at your expense.

    So I would say embrace this period in your life and learn from it (even enjoy it, because there IS a certain joy in knowing you know how these people work) and then get on with you life with joy, acknowledging that these people exist, but that you can now detect, and eliminate them from your life.

    However, I must say birch, not many people have the bravery to admit their true self.
     
  14. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    That's fine, they hate each other too!
     
  15. StrangerInAStrangeLa SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Not many people know their true self.

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  16. geordief Registered Senior Member

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    So is there a survival mechanism whereby the individual forgoes an understanding of its own psychological dynamics under conditions of stress?

    A bit like animals that "play dead" in order to evade predation .....
     
  17. StrangerInAStrangeLa SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    I'd call it a coping mechanism.

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  18. geordief Registered Senior Member

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    Do we have any scientific verification of it or is it a hypothesis ?
     
  19. StrangerInAStrangeLa SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Psychologists would agree with it except I'm not certain they would say not many people. I don't know how many they estimate it to be. They see that so many problems are due to people not knowing themselves and/or being unable to face what they are.They believe they themselves don't know themselves well enough until after sessions of self analysis & analysis by a colleague.

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  20. geordief Registered Senior Member

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    Well I guess all it takes is to scientifically uncover one case of embedded self delusion .

    Anecdotally, once I was stopped in the street by Scientology canvasers and they ran me through a psychology test and the result was that I was deluding myself and minimizing my problems.

    As I had a poor estimation of Scientolgists then I discounted their assessment as self serving and did not take it to heart.
     
  21. StrangerInAStrangeLa SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Scientologists do not know much about psychology other than how to manipulate people & such. They should be tested rather trying to test others.

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  22. Equinox Registered Member

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    I've known a lot of individuals to do just that. And used it to condone their behaviour as well.
     
  23. geordief Registered Senior Member

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    You don't mean they feign a misunderstanding (rather than my quote "forgo an understanding" ) , do you?
     

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