misogyny

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  1. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    your idea of the term is vastly different to how i have heard it used and applied by many women.

    their meaning is quite precise and defines a process of applying false reason to something that asserts a lack of equilibrium to explain away the situation while leaning on a sense of gender discrimination.

    i think your version is the political correctness variety used to pander to mansplainers.
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    ?? I have never heard it explained that way. Where did you get that?
     
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  7. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    Is misogyny among Moslems due to religion or to Arab culture?
     
  8. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    In its original meaning, mansplaining refers specifically to a man talking down to a women, typically to "explain" to her about a topic in which she has demonstrably more qualifications and/or expertise than he does. If I recall correctly, the term originated in an article written by a woman writer who had just had the scholarly text that she had written "explained" to her by a man who presumed (a) that she didn't understand it, and (b) being a woman, she couldn't possibly know the subject as well as he did.

    This is behaviour that is fairly commonly seen in men and only rarely observed in women. Hence the term.
     
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    Is misogyny in Christians due to religion or American culture?
    Is misogyny among atheists due to (lack of) religion, or some cultural thing related vaguely to one's nationality?
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Agree. But commonality doesn't constrict applicability.

    Once the act has been defined, it stands identifiably on its own, regardless of who invokes it, or upon whom it is invoked.


    Obviously, that's arguable.
     
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    No mansplaining everrrr happens on SF.

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  12. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    You can never be certain of the gender on public forums. So I guess the issue is mute on SF.
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Good point.

    Also: moot.
     
  14. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks for the correction.

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  15. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    if people list their gender, then we know. That said, I can spot a mansplainer. lol

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  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    People put what they want you to think.

    So, this is a good test of the applicability of the term.

    If someone online with a username and avatar of, say, Chuck Norris were to...
    ... we would be able to call it mansplaining.

    If Chuck then revealed he was actually female - the talk would be retroactively stripped of its mansplaining label?

    I do not think so. I think the label is dependent on the action, not the actor.
     
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  17. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    That's weird. I'm a female, so I list it. lol



    Maybe you'd feel differently if your entire gender was discriminated against throughout history, and laws needed to be changed to stop it from happening. Alas, it still goes on though. Not that men can't be discriminated against, but your entire gender has never had the same hardships women have had throughout history, so the term ''mansplaining'' is a way to highlight when a guy is likely sexist, and feels that all women need to have a man explain life to them.

    Mansplaining to me anyway, is when a guy feels the need to 'splain life to ALL women. You mentioned that your wife sometimes talks down to you, when explaining something. Does she talk to all men in that way?
     
  18. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, but you're unusual in that respect.

    It is not uncommon for women to not reveal their gender, or to fake being male online.
    It is not uncommon for men to fake being female online.


    There's no disagreement that men do the lion's share of mansplaining. I simply pointed out that the behaviour - and thus the term - is not exclusive to men.
     
  19. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    On another forum in the past, I've seen this. More so with men pretending to be women. Usually a give away when their first few posts are sexual lol



    Agree. But, I wonder if the term would have any relevance if it weren't for feminism. Mansplaining has gone on since the dawn of time most likely, but the difference now is that women aren't interested in being shrinking violets anymore to keep the peace.

    Interestingly, men mansplain to other men, too. It's pretty prevalent on here; looks like intellectually ''flexing'' or something.

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  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Agree.

    I suppose. But this is a technical discussion forum, not so much a social site, and it involves the exchange of detailed ideas. It requires a certain length of explanation, otherwise, threads would be a thousand posts long, each consisting of short back-and-forth exchanges.
    I'd say most science or technical fora are like this. Different from social fora.
     
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  21. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    Gotcha, that makes sense. I think when the ad homs fly though...

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  22. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    doesn't mean a thing online.
     
  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Online, no one knows I'm Chuck Norris.
     
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