New Theory Suggests the Laws of Physics Evolved

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by MarkCGreer, Mar 7, 2012.

  1. Rhaedas Valued Senior Member

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    A lot of this sounds like the whole fine tuned universe, which is a misleading way to approach things. You don't speculate and then find things to try and fit into your idea. It's all just words without the usage of basic scientific method, starting at the beginning.

    What phenomena are you using as a basis to suggest that not only were there other "laws" in place that disappeared, but that the current physical laws that we rely on are also still changing? Realize that if things behaved differently across the universe, we'd notice because we wouldn't get correlation with what we understand to be true here. It's one of the cornerstones, that an experiment or measurement should be consistent regardless of where you are.

    And I dislike the usage of "evolve" here...I get the point being made, but matter and energy change is not the same as organic evolution, so terminology shouldn't be mixed.
     
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  3. Pincho Paxton Banned Banned

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    Your method sounds too advanced like little animals rather than particles.
     
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  5. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Is this now offically the woo-woo thread?
     
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  7. Pincho Paxton Banned Banned

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    Well the term natural selection is dodgy for particles. Particles have to go to low energy areas, biology doesn't. You can see a Tiger take on a Buffalo because of its teeth which are the higher energy than the buffalo skin, but the Tiger overall is lower energy.
     
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  8. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    Pincho you really never cease to amaze me. You can always come up with these things that are just so out there.

    You could be a comedy writer for science conferences. The above would be a comedy lead in to a talk at a biological sciences conference.

    This thread is really is stinking up the whole science forum - for the love of all that is holy - please give this a courtesy flush!
     
  9. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, the OP didn't exactly start it out as science and pincho certainly converted it to to raw pseudo.
     
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  11. Pincho Paxton Banned Banned

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    You can't all really be confused by that can you? What if I said black widow spider and a human? Could particles obey the same rules as winning this fight, so that natural selection is the same?

    Anyway.. whatever you think.. biology uses weapons, I don't think that particles do. So particles always lose to higher energy, and the selection is not the same.
     
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  12. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    I think you are actually get farther and farther from reality. It isn't that your comments are confusing per se, it is that they are completely devoid of any semblance of rational meaning.
     
  13. Pincho Paxton Banned Banned

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    Survival is the meaning. I think all the way up from Quantum Particles to biological life, so I can think of life in the quantum physical structures. But what I don't understand is why do you visit a science site just to attempt to sound clever, when in fact you are supposed to be reading it, or replying on topic?
     
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  14. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    You said

    You can see a Tiger take on a Buffalo because of its teeth which are the higher energy than the buffalo skin, but the Tiger overall is lower energy..

    How are you suppose to reply to something like that? You have no idea how insanely ludicrous that sounds to anybody who has take any physics.
     
  15. Pincho Paxton Banned Banned

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    You are allowed to attempt to correct my physics. I did pick two animals that are close rather than the black widow, and the human. So I may have been slightly out. But be warned, nobody knows physics like I do. Don't even attempt to talk to me about glass.
     
  16. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    That's not true. There are lots of people out there who are as ignorant of physics as you.
     
  17. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    Ironically enough my wife is a glass technologist and I have worked with frits and photosensitive glass. Which means I can just about guarantee that I know much more about the physics of glass than you ever will. If your animal energy garbage is any indication, then I have probably forgoten more than you will ever know. However, if your expertise is identifying the maker of different drinking glasses, or eye glasses then I am sure you will know more than me.
     
  18. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Moderator note: Pincho Paxton has been warned for posting meaningless crap in the Science subforums. If this continues, a ban will follow.
     
  19. MarkCGreer Registered Member

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    I love science, but I am getting the feeling that scientist culture is one that punishes you for thinking outside the box. I come from the entrepreneurial world where the life and death of a business is based on several non-obvious forces.

    Get your head out of your highly detailed experiment and stop and look at the universe as a whole - the big picture. Its too perfect for it to be a spontaneous accident!!! We should absolutely be speculating more! We should absolutely be dreaming up ideas from the top and seeing if the world fits the idea. Scientists are always working backward from the evidence. We could get a lot further if we imagined scenarios from the top and then tested to see if they could've worked.

    Why does the standard model only have 20 particles?? Why isn't there an infinite array?? Because they had to pass some sort of test to exist. They had to go through a weeding out process. Let's run a simulation of particles with varying gravity and see if this weeds out the imperfect levels.

    Here's another clue the universe evolved: Why is there far more dark energy than dark matter? Answer: Because our 5% of visible matter is dark matter than has evolved. Dark matter is a primitive form of matter. Dark energy will never evolve into anything because it repels instead of attracts. Someone needs to bitch slap the science world. Wake up and make some bold predictions!!!!
     
  20. Pincho Paxton Banned Banned

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    It's true, but the worst thing is that I am writing a computer program that proves my impossible physics are real, and the moderators, and Administrators know it. They just don't see the relationship between their eyes, and maths. Glass... huh. Is it mass or negative mass... well light passes through it.. so holes?... no? OK. It's not holes according to science because it's heavy... like a Black Hole? .... not according to science, like a sponge... not according to science. Why is water, and glass transparent then? Why do heavy metals often reflect light. Why is heavy iron moved towards magnets it's heavy. Nope my physics are awful. The sun isn't an out hole, and a snowflake isn't an in hole even though I wrote a computer program to show it. Maths is only allowed when the maths agrees with science.

    If it's goodbye check my videos on Youtube, my Universe Generator is on the way.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Pincho333

    Things are heavy because of the gyroscopic effect of whirlpools. Whirlpools are holes.. don't believe your eyes, believe science instead. Electrons are whirlpools.. heavy like gyroscopes. They have a flow of gravity towards them because of the hole. The electron mass is wrong because electron mass is measured by curving a particle around the electron. Holes curve particles not mass.. like a whirlpool. Don't use your eyes, look at a formula, and agree with science instead. Formulas are the dreamworld of scientists, they don't look up from their papers. They only look up to ban me, and feel clever. It's an insult to nature. Science is a priesthood.

    Once I'm banned watch science news find my results to be true in 10 years time. Will I be allowed back on... no. Science will just get back to its papers.

    Like this look. I predicted this years ago, science found out last week...
    http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/338937/title/Water_not_so_squishy_under_pressure
     
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  21. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    More meaningless crap.
     
  22. thestateofmark Registered Member

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    Theres a name for that, its called philosophy, and it gets you ideas but as far as being practical for anything, no. You're a computer programmer and you dont know basic math? In another thread you coulden't understand F = G.m1.m2 / r^2 when all the variables were clearly defined? Im a sophomore college student in computer engineering and you sound like a complete moron. Formulas are the dreamworld of scientists? A formula is a foundation for an idea and a way that you can express it in a more concrete way. Science is a priesthood? Jesus fucking christ....
     

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