So you are trying to tell us that having knowledge is impossable, and yet are completely blind to the fact that in so doing you are professing knowledge? Ayn Rand wrote a few books about you, you know Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I am talking about a different GOD. There are two GODs. The first one is the intelligent power behind our creation whatever this power is. The second one is the GOD that people warship. People extract the second one from the first one, or in other words they conclude that the first one must be the second , THE GOD. Now you can logically deny the second one but you can not deny the first one. So you would be logically mistaken if you deny the first one, and I would be logically mistaken If I claim any proof or even part of a proof on the existence of the second one. at last, Points#1and #2 are encompassed? No. I only wanted to differentiate between those who are logical and those who think they are logical!!!
I refuse to believe that god controls everything. becouse if he does and he controls me then it is his fault that I do not choose to serve him. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I am not sure what you are saying here... So having faith in something that has not been (and will not likely be) proven either way is more logical because it feels more secure?
i don't know about that-.... it is best to be an observer and make limited conclusions from that... the existence of god seems to go against every observation i ever made and therefore i do not see the need to adopt the agnostic viewpoint...
There was a thread about the logical consistency of the Atheist/Agnostic/Theistic points of view. It was started in Free Thoughts so it got pretty much ignored. I posted my point of view on the logical reasoning behind Agnostisicm there. This Thread
yes i saw it...didn't agree...couldn't be bothered to respond to it, because it was too long...care to give your most important point.
'They simply abstain from casting a ballot pending further proof. ' and this seems like a stupid postion to me, since there is and never been evidence for a god. Why bother to build in the possibilty of a god other than to cave in to the human fear and insecurity that things might be true because a large group of people says it is true. that is just social pressure we are dealing with, not reality.
one_raven, I became conscious of it, of course, otherwise I wouldn't be talking about it. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
He is not perceivable in a natural manner. It is not that He can't be perceived, it is just that you have to seek Him first in order to find Him.
