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  1. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Yap, we have just about every 10 years a war. That is why we have prosperity because we have war continuously.
     
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  3. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    The Allies certainly considered themselves morally superior to the Axis powers.
    The Montreal Protocol originators certainly considered themselves smarter than all the people who claimed that there was no ozone hole, that it was all lies, that there was absolutely nothing wrong with CFC's.
    The countries who created the ISS certainly consider themselves more capable than countries who could not orbit a space station.

    So they all meet the definition of "holier than thou" - to certain other groups of people. You probably just don't belong to those groups.
     
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  7. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    In fact I read an interesting piece of news just today that shows the way the tide is running now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-40106278
     
  8. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    So, Merkel said: "Europe must be ready to look after itself".

    duh
     
  9. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Relevance to the Paris accord?

    I see from today's news that China and the EU are about to announce a joint statement on the Paris accord, China having already vowed to keep on with implementation regardless of what the US does.
     
  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    A) uncertain
    and
    B) When?
     
  11. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Trump is unwittingly making China look good. That's amazing. It's shocking.
     
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  13. geordief Registered Senior Member

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    Can States such as California break ranks with central government and effectively abide by the Paris accords?
     
  14. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Everyone can voluntarily abide by the accords. California has stricter environmental regulation and has had for decades.
     
  15. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Will Trump continue down this path of destruction? It's a good question. He's already badly beaten down. Withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accords would be stupid. But, hey, Trump is known for stupid. It's his hallmark.
     
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  17. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    There is a delicious irony in this: Trump has replaced the motto in the coat of arms, which originally read "Integritas" (integrity), with "Trump" !

    Honestly, you couldn't make it up.

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    I'm going to tell my 89yr old historian father, when I see him in his nursing home tomorrow. He will roar with laughter.
     
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  18. geordief Registered Senior Member

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    He might have done better with Integritrump (In Trumpo (Dif)fidemus)

    I had missed that fraudian slip

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  19. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    as/re; "coat of arms", "gaudy" comes to mind.
     
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  20. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Yes the article wrongly calls it a "crest" but it is called a coat of arms. In heraldry a crest is the thing you sometimes see at the top of the coat of arms.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crest_(heraldry)
     
  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No "breaking ranks" required. States can do whatever they like with respect to emissions targets - and several states have done so.
     
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  23. geordief Registered Senior Member

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    Good in a way. Those states which "get it" can plough their own furrow and those with their heads stuck up Trump's "anus mirabilis" will come to see the error of their ways in due course no doubt.

    Of course they will be freeloading and irresponsible but nothing is perfect.
     

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