"The fact is, if anybody discovered true "free energy" they would become immensely rich. They would win the Nobel prize for physics. Their device would revolutionise all aspects of our lives. So far this hasn't happened. What do you think the most likely explanation for that is?" Very simple, Look at your attitude and then think that if the establishments reacts like that, which they do, what the chances are for anyone to come see what you're doing? Bill Beaty on this: "Q3: IS THERE A CONSPIRACY TO SUPPRESS THESE DEVICES? A: Yes and no. Is there a CONSPIRACY to keep women in low-paying jobs? No, there is just wide-ranging sexism, and sexist employers need not "conspire" together. To the people who are victims of sexist behavior, it may SEEM as if employers are conspiring together against them. But bigotry is not a conspiracy, instead it is a sort of disease which spreads through groups of people. We might become "infected" with bigotry, but obviously no secret organization is needed for bigotry to spread. We don't have to join a secret society in order to become a practicing sexist. Prejudice against the "Free Energy" research field has a similar origin. "Science bigots" constantly attack its adherents. They smear the field with derogatory names and use fairly underhanded tactics to discredit the research. And they believe that their behavior is proper. They are convinced that Science needs to be defended against "hoards of crackpots." It's a war, and in war, underhanded tactics become acceptable. If tomorrow I were to publicly announce that I was attempting to duplicate some inventor's claimed "overunity device," I would expect to receive smug laughter and sneering putdowns from reputable scientists. If my income depended on peer review by other scientists, I would expect to have my funding quickly cut off. But this bigotry is a result of belief systems, not of conspiracy. Skeptical scientists know, WITHOUT EXAMINING EVIDENCE that I must be some sort of deranged crackpot. They take "justified" action in preventing my waste of funding. But what if they're wrong? The problem is not that crackpots might waste funding. The problem is that "crackpots" are condemned without a fair hearing (often without any hearing at all.)" You see, I think your reaction is not scientific at all. You say it your self, They all must be lying otherwise they would have the Nobelprice. But that's a very naieve answer and it oversimplifies the situation completely. I believe the best and most scientific attitude there is is the one which Bill Beaty shows us. Open yet sceptic. THe thing with the adams motor is that, if Tim is not lying and I believe not as a few other people have had the SAME results, then it is that magnets can be forced to do WORK, something which everybody thinks is not possible. But experiment proofs them wrong. Therefore, I also think he shouldn't have said it is perpetual motion, Bill beaty says it much better, because it isn't perpetual, the magnets take vacuum (background) energy. May I remind you that the Wright Brothers after having flown before hundreds and hundreds of people, were still scoffed off as liars by scientists in the USA, and there even appeared an article in one of those journals to explain in technical terms why the law of physics couldn't allow this after many demonstrations of the Wright Brothers. Well, the scientists of the SAME establishment are scoffing off any report of a device which makes it above COP1. Attitudes do not change. Only the subjects change. When Tim says: "The Adams motor forces energy out of the fields of permanent magnets in a precise geometrical load less manner, via an electromagnetic asymmetry set up by a pulsed 'Lenz gate'" I believe this is clear, and the asymmetric aspect reminds me immediately of Lee and Chang who discovered way back in the 50's broken symmetry in particles physics (and for which they received a Nobelprice) "It is an observed empirical fact the Adams motor runs off the exact same 'cold' negative electricity, observed by JLN and many others." of course, they are all lying according to you and the scientific establishment this is not a good attitude "So putting this together, it is my hypothesis that if the field strength of a permanent magnet is reduced below the size of the force" clear to me " that created it minus losses, the field assumes a form of negative, or negentropic value, in order to draw in energy such that the field can be brought back up to full strength. This negative value may be simple time reversal." okay, that it is a Hypothesis maybe nature works different, keeping in mind that some clever people suggest that Time does not even exist "This is done via a direct 100% efficient thermo electric conversion (Bedini and Adams both report cold magnets, and I have seen the cold circuitry for myself, hence this hypothesis is also empirically derived)." all three have seen it, yet this is just an explanation "Since the conversion takes place in negative space where normal physical law is reversed, loss less energy conversions are permitted. Waste heat in the vacuum is directly converted to potential. A true time reversed negentropy interaction, that is the exact time reversed opposite of conventional textbook I2R electrical losses." eveything is reversed, mathematical absolutely possible and empirically observed "What I am arguing for is not so much a rewriting of conventional textbooks, but simply the addition of another chapter explaining a 'special case,' for fields, extending rather than replacing conventional theory. The concept of field depletion also explains why over-unity effects can be so sensitive, and have caused such problems over the years. " sounds all very clear to me now, theory might be wrong I believe I will inform Sansbury on this after my exams and ask how he would explain this this because he's explained me some other stuff (from Bearden) normally explained with vacuum energy in a whole different way keep at it, c'est moi ps: ismu, I believe what you are trying to do has already been done, so I think if you read some work not only of Tim (he explains how to make it) but also of mR Adams himself or if you join the adamsEgroup, that you can check all this out for yourself Enjoy!