Possible Proof Of The Great Filter

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by Vmedvil, Sep 12, 2021.

  1. Vmedvil Registered Member

    Hello, for those of you that don't know what the "Great Filter" is it suggests that the reason why there are fewer aliens out there than Drake's Equation suggests is do to self destruction of Intelligent Species via war before becoming an advanced species. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter)

    Today, I have a interesting video to share that may prove the "Great Filter" about a distress call that could have been a hoax about a alien civilization in another galaxy very near to here that self annihilated about 2.53 million years ago, which I would not doubt given humanity's struggle with the Atomic Bomb, during the cold war, the U.S. and Soviet Union almost committed mutual assured destruction during the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis)


    Here is the video that I call evidence of the Great Filter along with of course the Cuban Missile Crisis with the evidence of planet destroying weapons of 3 types discovered already with the strongest of each of these three being the Tsar Bomb, Molecular Machine, and Agent VX.

    Due to the evidence presented I would like to change the Drake's Equation to include a variable that would include fraction of civilizations that self annihilate before in the Space Age colonization of a second planet or moon, this being equal to the average chance of nuclear war since the discovery of the atomic bomb. https://www.wagingpeace.org/probability-nuclear-war/ , which based on them being used 2 times in 72 years, that would make a average of 2.7% or (27/1000) as the fraction of self destruction with that of survival being (973/1000), assuming most species are as hostile as humans, the more hostile the intelligent species the higher this would be, of course, the Klingon's from star trek or Krogan's from Mass Effect (Having actually had a nuclear war in the game) would have a much higher chance as a result, but we are mammals, for instance, if the dinosaur's had evolved self awareness then they would have had a much higher chance being reptiles.


    Unfortunately for the dinosaurs 65 million years ago around 100 Teratons of kinetic energy via an asteroid hit the planet causing their extinction before self awareness.


    It would depends on the number of times they used nuclear weapons, they would have had to have fought wars to maintain their empire but if they were never used there would be a filter of 0% chance of self destruction, they were too peaceful to kill themselves, we would see that in something like herbivores or Photosynthesis using creatures that evolved self awareness that don't have predatory instincts as much such as a self aware plant being much less hostile never having had to need to kill another species for food, but with humans I have no doubt there would have been many wars to keep their empire stable especially with the British, but with a herbivore it would just be much lower most likely, humans being in the middle being omnivores, that being said there are carnivorous plants such as the Venus fly trap.


    If you have ever played the game spore it may be very much like that, in the game as you progress in evolution to the space stage you get "Traits"


    Finally, at the end you get a Archtype to which your species is like in space some "arch-types" have a higher chance of self destruction than others before the space stage being more rare as advanced civilizations.


    For instance, the Grox that inhabit the middle of the galaxy being spore's version of the Borg where scientist civilization being much more rare than a lawful-forgiving species like a shaman race, the scientist being a neutral-wrathful species whom to become the borg would have Nano-apocalypsed their planet with molecular machinery not all negative solutions to the "Great Filter" are extinction.


    While many others are paths to extinction.

    The Opposite Nano-apocalypse as the grox did using molecular machinery, for instance, portrayed by Saint John in the Book of Revelations in the bible.


    Nuclear War

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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

    Sorry, your "proof" requires an appeal to science fiction aliens? This is Science and Society. Requesting this be moved to a more appropriate forum.
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  5. Vmedvil Registered Member

    Hey, you it was a example I cannot just go out into space and grab a random alien to interview him, build me a spaceship and I will give better examples.
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