Qui volonté que vous votez pour dans cette élection fédérale ?For you Quebecois, for the rest of us Who will you vote for in this federal election? I think a bit of Canada is need on sci, considering it is a Canadian website. So here you go: Liberals- Paul Martin Conservatives- Steven Harper NDP- Jack Layton Bloc Quebecois- Jill Duceppes?
I'm Canadian, and new to the board, so what better place to start. Personally, if I lived in Quebec, I'd vote bloq just to get Quebec to quit whining and leave already. The French component in the upper reaches of our government and military also means we sacrifice quality with diversity. Realisticly though, I don't think either Harper or Martin is really fit to govern, and Layton doesn't have much chance of winning. But I'm young, I can be idealistic, I'll go NDP.
god help me but as it stands now I'll vote liberal. I despise them and feel they've been in power WAY too long but the opposition is just so pathetic I don't see that I have a choice.
The NDP is clearly not in it to win, they're in it to form part of the opposition. And if the Liberals end up with a minority government (a very real possibility), the opposition will be an important part of governing the country. My election prediction is that the Liberals will end up with a minority or small majority with Conservatives, the Bloc, and the NDP each taking non-trivial portions of the remainder. If it means keeping Stephen Harper from office, I would vote Liberal. However, if it appears that the Liberals will win regardless (fairly likely, I think), I would vote for NDP purely because a voice for the left is sorely needed. Strong and diverse opposition can only benefit the country. I'm speaking rather hypothetically here. My electoral district is Calgary Southwest, Harper's personal riding and there's no way in hell he's going to lose it, what with all the hicks that live there. I'll vote to satiate my conscience, but it's not going to do a damn thing.
I agree with Porf, I live in Toronto so the NDP is much stronger here then it is in Alberta. I really don't like Harper, he gives me the creeps. He is a nicer version of Stockwell Day, but that’s about it. When you see the likes of Joe Clarke dissenting from the party in opposition from the Canadian Alliance take over of the PC party, the new Conservative party is new just in name. The NDP is not going to win a national election ever, but what they will do is moderate the conservative tendencies of Paul Martin, and the Conservatives. Also with Layton the NDP seems to have been reinvigorated again after the disaster that was Alexa. If the NDP can make gains here in Toronto, Vancouver, and Atlantic Canada hopefully they will gain some real power, and the Liberals would be forced to join into ad hoc coalitions with them. “Anyone but Harper” is happening.
Talk about not having a choice: I live in a riding where the NDP can't possibly lose, but the NDP can't possibly form a government. No matter how I vote, I'm going to have an NDP MP and (probably) a Liberal government. I'll still vote NDP because the guy has done a good job for years, but I don't like the federal NDP (or any of the federal parties, for that matter). What must the rest of the world be like if immigrants are breaking down the door trying to get in?
it's sad but the best I can even hope for is a liberal minority government so we can get some decent checking and balancing back in ottawa. I don't like the PC's very much (in any iteration) and the NDP's are SO reactionary that the few good ideas they do have are always pushed to ridiculous extremes by the end. WE'VE GOT NOTHING TO CHOOSE FROM! God, I hate them all.
I would vote for Paul Martin and the Liberals, change is good...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I would vote for the Green Party. They will never win, but with a good popular vote, maybe politicians will start to pay attention to environmental issues more.
wow, I can see you have a lot of faith in the Green PartyPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! (joking) I do support the Green Party's plan to improve and protect our environment, but I don't think it's the best party for a nation, because there are other issues such as economy, foreign policy, health care in a country to think about
The Green Party is only trying to help the environment that many don’t care about. They are trying to bring up the issue, and get it out there and recognized, because no one else will. I vote for them, to affect change with the ruling party. To have them perhaps take a different stance on the environment for the better.
are you saying that the Green Party is a political party that has nothing to do with politics? then what is it doing in a political election? Isn't there other methods to get support? yeah by the way I totally support environmental protection and improvement remember, we are part of the environment... Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
What it is doing in an election is gaining support, and making sure they are notice. It is exposure. By the way, I am not a member of the party, so i am just drawing conclusions. However i want to join asap. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Whatever party wins the election (conservatives or liberals), i just hope it's a minority government. It really does bother me how people always associate minority governments with weakness. I think that has to do with the institutional structure that it becomes weak, but it really has the potential for being the best government. Alright, hear me out. Any type of democratic reform is great, pro PR, pro triple E senate, all that gibberish, but what i really want to see is the legislative branch of government gain power over the executive. Actually having the standing committee's serve their purpose and have all the representatives in the house of commons, go into meetings with their party's stance behind them, and propose, discuss, and make a consensus of the legislation pass. If the house of commons worked in this fashion, it would be such a revolution. Think about it, a Canadian government working together with the citizens in mind. Alright, I went too far. Mea Culpa. Let 'er rip.
The senate is there to provide 'sober second thought' i.e. review proposed legislation without prejudice. How can, do you suppose, a triple E senate provide 'sober second thought' when they'll carry a mandate? I know the senate, as it is, is imperfect. I personally think a shift to a triple E senate is a leap from the frying pan into the fire. I don't have time to debate right now, L8R......
I fear sorry for the Conservatives if they in a minority gov’t, they are surrounded by socialists, and pseudo-socialists. Who will the Conservatives work with? It will be a very ad hoc coalition situation, and Canada will be weaker for it. Laws will take much longer to pass, but on the plus side at least they will be better laws. If the Liberals get a minority gov’t things wouldn’t be as bad, the NDP would more easily support a Liberal agenda. But this is where get interesting, the role of the two smaller parties. The Bloc and the NDP could become huge players in the future of gov’t. Both are left leaning, and both would represent a challenge to the Conservatives. I feel sorry for Martin, he is looking like he may become the new John Turner, or even dare I say… Kim Campbell!
Granted the fact I live in Quebec ... I would never want to catch myself voting for the Bloc. Ever since that referendum they had in '95 about seperating the province from the rest of Canada (thankfully they lost that referendum by a mere [50.4]:[49.6] margin), I've always despised their political views and objectives. They won't admit that they want another referendum because they know it hurts them in the polls every time they mention it but given the chance ... they will do it all over again. I think as myself as a Canadian first rather then a Quebecois. As for this election, I would vote for the Green party just because I'm all for the environment ... considering I'm doing Environmental science as a minor.
Thats what I mean it's in the institutional structure that makes a minority weak. You need to think that if there were a shift in the electoral system to make a majority in the house of commons, it would be extremely rare (with past elections, only 2 would have ever been true majorities Mulrooney in 84 being the last). That would completely shift the way in which legislation is approached. Because they know that an election majority is almost impossible, government will depend mostly on getting co-operation through the process. Since nobody wants constant elections it'll be in everybody's best interest. You also prove this by saying that the laws would be better laws. Isn't that what we should strive for? It would only take longer because of the Us Vs. Them mentality its currently conducted. You change the enviroment you change the attitude.
Here is my stance as to the Liberals, Conservatives, and the NDP. Currently I like the liberals, and here is why. They will not cut taxes, and I believe that they should not, because that isn't what is needed. The little thing with the sponsorship scandal couldn't be helped. You can't let a few bad eats ruin the bunch. They do not spend that much on the military, which I feel we don’t need. They didn't go to Iraq. They don't run a deficit, and they are trying to, slowly I must say, eliminate the debt. As to the conservatives, I don’t know a lot of good about them, except lowering the deficit, but I do have some bad. I wouldn’t say I would never vote for them, but I currently don’t like them. Here is why: Bush is a conservative, enough said. They want to cut taxes, including corporate tax cuts. I don’t think that it is a good idea to cut taxes at this point, especially the corporate ones, because there is so much that needs to be done. They want to spend much more on the military, which I do not like. As for the NDP, all I can say is that they would raise corporate taxes which I do agree with, and they don’t endorse the Missile Defence Program, which I like. They also are nice to the environment, which is a big issue for them, and I also like that. So that is why I also like them. However I would vote for the Green Party, because I believe in them, and I feel that they need my support. They won’t win, I have no illusions about that, but if they have a large popular vote, maybe other politicians will pay attention to the environment a bit more, and change some things. The Green Party is only trying to help the environment that many don’t care about. They are trying to bring up the issue, and get it out there and recognized, because no one else will. I vote for them, to affect change with the ruling party. To have them perhaps take a different stance on the environment for the better. Well you guys can critique me, and add in your bits, but that is all I have for now. Sorry I don’t live in Quebec, and so have no understanding of them, and I am also not very knowledgeable about the NDP, but I do know a bit.
