Rabbi wants scantily clad dummies out of shops

And, seriously, if the rabbi came by where you lived and tried to get shrimp out of the stores and people defended his actions by pointing out that Judaism had been around a long time...

 

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It is unlikely, from a Darwinian perspective, that a people who were guided by stupid laws would survive by attempting to adhere to them for 3500+ years. Modern western civilisation, on the other hand, is visibly in a state of decay.

 

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Ah, but you see there's quite a lot of Health and Safety stuff in the Torah, and in that department, things change. For example, if Moses had had to contend with the ring main, there would have been a 614th mitzvah involving 13amp fuses.

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and some can look at ancient civs. as stagnating and stifling...going no where and nothing to show for it. i am not religious and i try not to portray a negative perspective towards religion but do we just throw our hands up and give up?

i dont know what is decaying either?

 

advancements in medicine....ah got to go...se you

 

People had slaves for thousands of years. Also those people may have survived despite stupidity in certain areas of their lives. It is clear that you avoid at least one of their laws, probably many. Groups have managed to survive without following Jewish dietary laws, for example. From a Darwinian perspective - which, frankly, is not used in relation to cultural habits - it might be unlikely if everything they did was guided by stupid rules. But that is clearly not the case. That some things they do may be stupid is hardly ruled out by Darwin's theories. One of the advantages of being human is that you can change habits without natural selection being the only learning device.

 

It's been in decay for thousands of years. And Jewish ideas, especially those carried on the Christian tradition, have been part of that decay.

One of the problems in Western Civilization is that there are religious groups that hate the body. And in reaction to these groups, who teach people to represse their sexuality, other groups become popular and make money by offering 'freedom' rather than freedom.

That advertisers and porn makers hate human flesh is clear.
That this is mirror and created by religious haters of human flesh is also clear.

And we get to walk around in a daze between their irrational hate and messages.

 

So Jews who follow dietary laws are silly, but Jews who dislike homosexual acts are Darwinian smarties?

 

Well; true and not true. There are various types of Rabbis with various responsibilities. As a rule of thumb nearly all Rabbis (if not ALL) have the job of serving is determining the law in a specific situation, and providing moral guidance. Different Rabbis are given specific accreditation by becoming knowledgeable in a specific topic that becomes there job. Specific Rabbis are trained to maintain Kashruit certification (They verify whether or not stores/foods/companies are kosher). Others are trained to do the bris (circumcision), yet others are trained to be judges...or scribes...or numerous other jobs etc etc.

'Eating out' and Display windows are a modern trend, not every person has the capability of ensuring the kitchen in the location he's eating is in fact kosher. So companies pay trustworthy people in the community to insure their products are kosher, if the community trusts those people then they are willing to eat there. This is how Jews have maintained kosher laws for years...especially since the invention of factories and mass production.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mashgiach

 

Sure. So was it this rabbis job to judge those stores or not. I would find it odd if it was in fact his job. I mean, would it have made the news?

Was this this rabbi's job?

I may be wrong but is sounded like a rabbi decided to speak out.

You are making it sound like the rabbi was brought in by the community to evaluate these stores. If a community decided this and the stores are part of the community, well they can live with the sillyness if that's how they want to live. And perhaps the article distorted the situation and that's all it was. But it sounded much more like the moral campaign of an outraged rabbi for whom this was not his job.

 

Definitely Orthodox communities in Israel have Rabbis whose responsibility is to speak on behalf of the community. It's likely that citizens of his community complained to him, and he complained to the company.

Orthodox communities are very serious about keeping smut out of their area. For example there was a store selling some kind of magazine that was displayed at the counter of women dressed inappropriately they asked the man numerous times to take it down. The concern was children seeing it. So the solution was they send an old elderly retired man to sit outside of the store in front of the window and give the children candy for not going in. Though the situation escalated that was the solution initially provided.

 

1) so we should assume this is the case. 2) is it possible that the orthodox community is only part of this community and they are trying to decide for everyone, when, in fact, they could just not shop in these stores and not look in the windows?

One person's smut is another persons dress where you can see the woman's elbow.

 

I don't know. The story said Tiberias, a city of 40,000 people. It's impossible to know.

 

A religious fundamentalist QQing because he sucks. Wow!
Why is this news.

 

The Haredi are unpopular in Israel because they make fuss about food, smut, clothes, language and stores selling stuff on the Sabbath. iow, they are too Jewish for Israelis

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1085474.html

 

Jews who follow dietary laws are respectful of tradition, and show solidarity with their race.
Jews who put homosexuals to death would be in breach of state laws, and so are denied the opportunity to cleanse their communities.

 

However, they tend to have large families so they will prevail.

 

Roaches have large families. Is that the sort of prevalence you're talking about?

 

Well, since you mention it, roaches have been going since before the dinosaurs, and will likely be around long after humans have disappeared. Time and survival are the measures of success.

 

Some might view it that way. I doubt the rabbi in question does.

I'm not sure where the putting them to death issue came from. There is support for negatively judging homosexuals in the Torah. To go along with this attitude could be seen as showing solidarity with their race. I don't remember seeing instructions where this part of scripture is for solidarity and this part is what God wants us to do.

Bad ideas can last and they do.