Sadly I've seen several people say "that kid should consider himself lucky! He scored!" That attitude keeps a lot of male victims of rape and sexual assault from coming forward.
Religion and women.
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So sadly true, billvon.
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You think you're smart for ignoring what I told you about the specific laws that are active where I live?
Have you, by the way, investigated the law in the UK recently, or did you just go grabbing at any straw, in finding that article from 2019?
What does US law have to say?
Rape is a form of sexual assault. There are other forms as well. And so...?
Couldn't help but read just a little of what I told you? Something actually sank in?
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I'm often OTT, but I'm sure as hell not here, in this instance.
And? What exactly is the point you are trying to make here, assuming there is one? Spit it out.
Jan is determined to give us all a display of his sexist attitudes and general ignorance of the law concerning sexual crimes.
I pointed out the main problem here:
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/religion-and-women.163938/page-28#post-3662365
Not sure if the link to the NT News newspaper will work. Sometime they do, sometimes not
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http..._dYTNvYQ6HtZ35Eodxy3vvoB961jyF0F2w0dKDfLnu5Gk
This is from Facebook to the NT News link
https://www.facebook.com/361389970597/posts/10157603738130598/?app=fbl
This snippet is from the teaser from a screenshot
If neither of the links work if interested perhaps story might be elsewhere on internet
Many of the comments posted relating to the article echoed billvon post
Extract from NT News newspaper Darwin
A teacher has been found guilty of sexually abusing a 15-year-old boy – with her husband yelling, “It’s a joke” as the verdict was read, a court heard on Thursday.
Kandice Barber, 35, had sex with the pupil after kissing him on the neck and whispering: “What do you want to do now?”
The mum-of-three then “threatened” to bring the boy down if he reported her and falsely accuse him of rape, The Sun reports.
Barber was convicted of one count of causing/inciting a child to engage in sexual activity after a retrial at Amersham Law Courts, on Thursday.
The verdict, which took jurors 10 hours and 39 minutes to reach, related to having sex with the boy in a field.
Barber was convicted of one count of causing/inciting a child to engage in sexual activity after a retrial at Amersham Law Courts, on Thursday.
The verdict, which took jurors 10 hours and 39 minutes to reach, related to having sex with the boy in a field.
MORE OFF THE STORY HERE
Barber will next appear in court on Friday for a bail hearing.
https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http..._dYTNvYQ6HtZ35Eodxy3vvoB961jyF0F2w0dKDfLnu5Gk
This is from Facebook to the NT News link
https://www.facebook.com/361389970597/posts/10157603738130598/?app=fbl
This snippet is from the teaser from a screenshot
If neither of the links work if interested perhaps story might be elsewhere on internet
Many of the comments posted relating to the article echoed billvon post
Extract from NT News newspaper Darwin
A teacher has been found guilty of sexually abusing a 15-year-old boy – with her husband yelling, “It’s a joke” as the verdict was read, a court heard on Thursday.
Kandice Barber, 35, had sex with the pupil after kissing him on the neck and whispering: “What do you want to do now?”
The mum-of-three then “threatened” to bring the boy down if he reported her and falsely accuse him of rape, The Sun reports.
Barber was convicted of one count of causing/inciting a child to engage in sexual activity after a retrial at Amersham Law Courts, on Thursday.
The verdict, which took jurors 10 hours and 39 minutes to reach, related to having sex with the boy in a field.
Barber was convicted of one count of causing/inciting a child to engage in sexual activity after a retrial at Amersham Law Courts, on Thursday.
The verdict, which took jurors 10 hours and 39 minutes to reach, related to having sex with the boy in a field.
MORE OFF THE STORY HERE
Barber will next appear in court on Friday for a bail hearing.
First off, I didn’t ask you to stick your nose in.
If you can’t conduct yourself properly in a discussion, always being triggered by some emotion or other, then do yourself a favour and speak to people who only agree with you. Crikey!
The point I’m making without falling victim to my emotions, is that the circumstances where it said that a woman raped a man, who s not the same as when a man rapes a women.
If the law states that what was previously thought of as sexual assault, or sexual molestation, is now “rape”, then it in the eyes of the law.
That’s all. There no need to get all het up
Where have I been sexist?
Sexism, prejudice or discrimination based on sex or gender, especially against women and girls.
It fundamentally is. One person forces another person to have sex against their will. That's rape. The biological mechanics are different, of course - but that is no mitigation.
In the US that is true, and will soon be true in other countries.
Exactly. You claim that women are intended for different roles than men, and thus there are activities (boxing is the example you used) that are inappropriate for them. That's pretty much the definition of sexism.
Nothing in your post relates to the thread topic. Why did you post that in this thread? There is no mention of religion in the case you're reporting.
I pointed it out previously, in some detail. Go back and read the relevant posts.
Your whole spiel on how women are mainly meant for "bearing progeny" for men, and how you applaud a patriarchal view of the family and so on. It's all sexist.
So, by the way, are your stupid implications that men can't be sexually assaulted.
Oh, and there was also all that nonsense about emotions being bad (for men) because women have them, and it's bad for men to share any "female" traits.
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“Typically, a woman has two X chromosomes and is capable of pregnancy and giving birth from puberty until menopause. Female anatomy, as distinguished from male anatomy,”
The difference between a man and a woman is precisely that she can give birth. There’s nothing sexist snout the truth. I never said anything about doing it for men.
The nuclear family structure is a patriarchal view? It is the best and most natural view to raise a family. That a common opinion.
You need to go read and understand what I said.
You always put spin on your responses. They’re tiresome.
Exactly. And in this thread we have several examples of your belief that women should be discriminated against.
Xelasnave: Excellent idea. Women clearly would outdo men on a pound for pound basis as you get in boxing. Some of the girls in MMA have become excellent fighters.
Jan: Er.. no! It’s not an excellent idea. It’s a horrible idea. Only in a godless society would this be allowed.
The idea that women should not be allowed to fight is discrimination, and as sexist as it gets, right up there with "women should not be allowed to vote."
Here's another one:
Baldee: Do you believe, for example, that, other than roles specific to reproduction, there are natural roles for men, and natural roles for women? Do you also believe, for example, that it is not okay "for men to be emotional (like women)".
Jan: Yes.
More sexism, and a common argument against allowing women more rights. "Well, I am all for women, but they're too emotional to have any REAL responsibility."
You are by far the most sexist person in this thread. I expect you to be blind to that, though.
How is any of that discriminating against women?
Here's a sexism primer for you, Jan, because clearly you sorely need one.
First, take the quiz:
https://www.coe.int/en/web/human-rights-channel/stop-sexism
Then read these:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/sexism
https://eige.europa.eu/publications/sexism-at-work-handbook/part-1-understand/what-sexism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism
https://humanrights.gov.au/quick-guide/12094
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/psychology/sexism
First, take the quiz:
https://www.coe.int/en/web/human-rights-channel/stop-sexism
Then read these:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/sexism
https://eige.europa.eu/publications/sexism-at-work-handbook/part-1-understand/what-sexism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism
https://humanrights.gov.au/quick-guide/12094
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/psychology/sexism
Here are a few useful extracts from just one of the sources I linked, in case you're incapable of digesting anything that doesn't come in small chunks:
By the way:
And here's what feminism is about, in a nutshell:
Now, Jan. Do you want to double down and reveal yourself as a misogynist or a "men's rights" sympathiser, as well as a sexist man, or you do want to publically disavow your support of any of the three?
Sexism can be a belief that one sex is superior to or more valuable than another sex. It imposes limits on what men and boys can and should do and what women and girls can and should do.
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Sexism in a society is most commonly applied against women and girls. It functions to maintain patriarchy, or male domination, through ideological and material practices of individuals, collectives, and institutions that oppress women and girls on the basis of sex or gender. Such oppression usually takes the forms of economic exploitation and social domination. Sexist behaviours, conditions, and attitudes perpetuate stereotypes of social (gender) roles based on one’s biological sex. A common form of socialization that is based in sexist concepts teaches particular narratives about traditional gender roles for males and females. According to such a view, women and men are opposite, with widely different and complementary roles: women are the weaker sex and less capable than men, especially in the realm of logic and rational reasoning. Women are relegated to the domestic realm of nurturance and emotions and, therefore, according to that reasoning, cannot be good leaders in business, politics, and academia. Although women are seen as naturally fit for domestic work and are superb at being caretakers, their roles are devalued or not valued at all when compared with men’s work.
The description fits you like a glove, Jan.....
Sexism in a society is most commonly applied against women and girls. It functions to maintain patriarchy, or male domination, through ideological and material practices of individuals, collectives, and institutions that oppress women and girls on the basis of sex or gender. Such oppression usually takes the forms of economic exploitation and social domination. Sexist behaviours, conditions, and attitudes perpetuate stereotypes of social (gender) roles based on one’s biological sex. A common form of socialization that is based in sexist concepts teaches particular narratives about traditional gender roles for males and females. According to such a view, women and men are opposite, with widely different and complementary roles: women are the weaker sex and less capable than men, especially in the realm of logic and rational reasoning. Women are relegated to the domestic realm of nurturance and emotions and, therefore, according to that reasoning, cannot be good leaders in business, politics, and academia. Although women are seen as naturally fit for domestic work and are superb at being caretakers, their roles are devalued or not valued at all when compared with men’s work.
By the way:
The extreme form of sexist ideology is misogyny, the hatred of women. A society in which misogyny is prevalent has high rates of brutality against women—for example, in the forms of domestic violence, rape, and the commodification of women and their bodies. Where they are seen as property or as second-class citizens, women are often mistreated at the individual as well as the institutional level.
And here's what feminism is about, in a nutshell:
The feminist movement fought for the abolishment of sexism and the establishment of women’s rights as equal under the law. By the remediation of sexism in institutions and culture, women would gain equality in political representation, employment, education, domestic disputes, and reproductive rights.
And here's something about the "men's movement" backlash:
In a cultural backlash, the term reverse sexism emerged to refocus on men and boys, especially on any disadvantages they might experience under affirmative action. Opponents of affirmative action argued that men and boys had become the ones discriminated against for jobs and school admission because of their sex. The appropriation of the term sexism was frustrating to many feminists, who stressed the systemic nature of women’s oppression through structural and historical inequalities. Proponents of men’s rights conjured the notion of misandry, or hatred of men, as they warned against a hypothesized approach of a female-dominated society.
Now, Jan. Do you want to double down and reveal yourself as a misogynist or a "men's rights" sympathiser, as well as a sexist man, or you do want to publically disavow your support of any of the three?
Both terrible flaws, but wegs can hardly help herself. She's only a woman, after all. Right, Jan?
Well that looks a bit like a lie, doesn't it, given the above? Does your religion teach you to lie, Jan, or is that just something you choose to do, on your own initiative?
This, also posted to wegs, a woman. wegs' problem is that she created a negative atmosphere with her emotions, which men would never do unless there were "like women". What a terrible thing that would be for the world, eh Jan!
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