Religion is necessary

Discussion in 'Religion' started by birch, Feb 18, 2017.

  1. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Hammer that nail, wellwisher. Hammer that nail.
     
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  3. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    Faith is more of a way to ignore the truth and reality.

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  5. Greatest I am Valued Senior Member

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    I cannot agree with this as secular laws are much better than the laws of the Gods.

    I cannot see how anyone can get good morals and ethics from a genocidal son murdering God whose religion is intolerant, homophobic and misogynous.

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  7. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    I kindly disagree.
     
  8. Seaman Registered Member

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    It is interesting that some religious countries (e.g. USA, India, Brazil) have high rates of murder, teenage pregnancies and other social ills, but the less religious countries (e.g. Denmark, Switzerland) have corresponding low rates and indeed, often score higher in "happiness and well-being" studies. However, the size of country may be a more reliable factor:- Compare Russia with Malta. Studies of prisoners in the UK and USA appear to show a greater proportion of Christians than in the general population.
     
  9. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    And you can't tell us why.
     
  10. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    And they should lock up more of them (christians)
    Alex
     
  11. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    "How come you don't rape, steal, and kill if you don't believe in a punishment after death?"

    "Well, given the revelatory nature of your comment, I would have to say that I don't want to act like a Christian."
     
  12. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    An interesting question.
    Firstly I have not had a need.
    I never had problems with girls as in absence in my life.
    My experience has been they chase me so .....
    Never had the need to steal as have been content with what I had.

    Never been in a fight that required me to kill to stop the fight.

    I do the right thing because I want to not feel bad about myself and make my parents proud and certainly not from fear of judgement and punishment by a mythical character.
    Alex
     
  13. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    The first question is addressed to atheists frequently. Evidently the first of punishment in the after-life is what believers claim to be the basis of their morality. This is, quite simply, pathetic.

    But, as it so very typical, believers don't realize that atheists know that punishment in the corporeal state is actually real, and we can't get out of it by "deathbed conversions". That's why atheists represent a very small percentage of the prison populations.

    And whether or not you get enough nooky isn't germane to the discussion.
     
  14. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Let's talk about it anyway.
    Alex
     
  15. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    Curious, what is your definition of "truth and reality"?
     
  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, you gotta be careful about establishing correlations between such things.

    It is interesting to note the "relationship" between pirates and global warming too:

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  17. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    Negligences and mispriscriptions shoud not be made basis of any treatment. Only its effects and side effects should be accountable. Like it, main basis of any religion should ne counted not their misuse or misunderstandings esp in vested interests and ignorance.
    Main benefits from true religion should come from faith, religious practices, diet control, meditation, physical, mental, natural & social harmony etc. These should at least have proven benefits.
     
  18. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    You appear to be explaining (and now you have opened the religious box) perhaps preaching ideas which amount to reasonable common sense which reasonable common sense people would agree with

    However your concept of biology is way way incorrect and you would do well if you improved your understanding in that are

    Please if are intending to preach DON'T

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  19. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    No preaching. Just logical explaination.
     
  20. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    If you say so but sorry I do not think many of your statements are logical

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  21. KUMAR5 Registered Senior Member

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    Ok.
     
  22. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Belief creates hope out of his rib like as a constituent.
     
  23. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    The problem with religion is that it can't be defined by legislation as easily as can any other aspect of life, which invites abuse. My experience is that spirituality is free for all, there's no need to try purchasing it with money or effort.
     
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