Russian actors helped Trump and Republicans in election

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/0...hack.html?_r=0&referer=http://m.facebook.com/

http://wapo.st/2hglsix

http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/12/10/the-cia-just-confirmed-russia-hacked-dnc-to-help-trump-win/

On mobile atm... Gotta say, this doesn't look good. Is there any official plan for such an event?

 

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One more way the Party of Reagan becomes the Party of Trump: We will not begin bombing in five minutes.

More to the point, no, I don't think we really have much of a plan for this.

 

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I do hope the CIA are as good at their job as they are often portrayed.
This election stinks bigger than any pile of Russian Olympic rats in a sewer.
Suffice to say that when Trump has to pay for Russian aid ( Putin never does any thing for nothing) I guess we will all find out just how big his ultimate and inevitable betrayal of the American people will be.

it is as unprecedented as everything else about this election...

 

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Timeline notes:
Recount started by Greens Jill Stein.
Recount disputed in court ( held up- delayed) in three (?) states by Trump supporters.
Obama announces deep probe by CIA. ( He must have very good reason beyond politics, to call this in at this late stage - possibly evidence revealed by the recount so far)
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Electoral College meets 19th (9 or 10 days from now)

 

this so reeks of a rerun of the 2004 TV series Battlestar Galactica...it is uncanny.... When Gaius betrays the human race big time...by allowing his lover (Number 6) access to the defense mainframe.

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Gaius Baltar (read Trump) regularly uses a well-developed acting talent to spin yarns on virtually any subject when he feels the need. He possesses a dry, cynical sense of humour but is prone to bouts of neurosis. A charismatic genius and womanizer, he is initially portrayed as a self-serving opportunist, but becomes a braver and more caring character over the course of the series, expressing regret for having been "a profoundly selfish man." Baltar is initially an atheist, but ultimately converts to the Cylons' monotheistic religion. Baltar is described as "weak", "arrogant" and "a coward" by Lee Adama while Caprica Six describes Baltar as "narcissistic, self-centred, feckless and vain."
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Even the woman character "Number six" seems familiar... eh?​

 

The Trump transition team dismissed the findings in a short statement issued Friday evening. “These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. The election ended a long time ago in one of the biggest Electoral College victories in history. It’s now time to move on and ‘Make America Great Again,’” the statement read.

Trump has consistently dismissed the intelligence community’s findings about Russian hacking.

“I don’t believe they interfered” in the election, he told Time magazine this week. The hacking, he said, “could be Russia. And it could be China. And it could be some guy in his home in New Jersey.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...c_story.html?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.6c640c71bb06

The federal government spends tens of billions annually on intelligence, yet Ill Douche and company assume they have the capacity to know better, and speculate the hacking may have just as likely been carried out by their old buddy Chris Christie in New Jersey.

After the CEO of Boeing made a slightly critical remark about Trump’s trade policy, Trump threatened to cancel their Air Force One contract. Will our Petulant Elect now threaten what he considers a useless intelligence community with budget cuts? Or will he opt for an ideological purge like he’s apparently considering at the Energy Department?

 

I think somebody should publicize exactly what constitutes being a traitor really means so more of us understand that.

This makes Cheny's outing a covert CIA agent seem like child's play......

 

The explanation as of last evening is that while intelligence agencies knew something Russian was involved, everything else was unclear. Apparently, the CIA just clarified: Russians, government ties, with specific intent.

Or something like that.

 

I would hope the CIA has evidence and will display it fast, we have only 8 days until the electoral college meets and by some miracle this disaster averted.

 

Could you be more specific? Plan for what?

 

Evidence of what? what do you think happened/could happen?

Maybe more to the point - what do we know now that we didn't know two months ago?

 

Russian influence was public knowledge for months before the vote. Trump's ties to Russia and the current Russian power structure go back years - to his wives, his deals.

So the question of what we know now that anyone paying attention didn't know months back is one thing. The question of what the average Trump voter was registering in their feverish isolation bubbles is another. It won't deny Trump the Presidency before the inauguration - but this is going to be a circus. All that bizarro level financial stuff that happened in the Iraq War with these guys in charge looks like incoming right here at home. The latest rumor has it that Trump didn't divest because he couldn't - that he's under water, which is more common than not in real estate developing circles.

 

Plan for what to do upon discovering that the President-elect is in violation of the Emoluments Act and other parts of the Constitution that prohibit the President from acting as an agent of a foreign power.

The simplest tack might be to swear him him, and then begin impeachment proceedings.

 

Some kind of election fraud I would guess.

Well Aliens could have landed, but I need evidence before believing.

Well we know the CIA actually thinks there is something to it, so we know the CIA is actually behind everyone else by several months.

 

Yeah and the republicans will be overjoyed with President Pence there after.

 

Hang the party for treason... It appears Mitch McConnell and others knew about this in advance.

 

We now have good evidence that a foreign power (one of our enemies) has acted successfully to change the outcome of a US election.

 

Yeah. That should be problematic, except, remember, Americans don't make that distinction: The Party that advocates because it has a stake in that outcome has no greater culpability than the Party that compromises out of caution.

What was Obama supposed to do? He did his part.

What was McConnell supposed to do? He refused to do his part.

The American people, generally speaking, do not see this difference. They see both Democrats and Republicans keeping their mouths shut. Doesn't matter that if Obama speaks up before the election the market calls him out for self-interest. Historically speaking, that's just not how Americans do these things.

Sometimes it seems like the question comes down to whether or not Democrats should doctrinally abandon any pretense against self-interest. To the one, voters reward that kind of self-interest in Republicans, so there is market precedent. To the other, part of the reason people are so sick and tired of the political discourse is that the politicians keep recalibrating to suit the new LCD argumentative principles established by successful Republicans. That is to say, the short-term benefit of such dereliction is apparent if we presume all else equal, while the long-term dangers of so devaluing the political discourse ought to be obvious.

And then add in that all else is not equal. We cannot guarantee that voters will similarly reward such behavior from Democrats; the underlying point, of course, being that it really is about supremacism. As long as the policy discourse can be shaped without upsetting white Christian male supremacy, we're all golden. The question for the Trump victory is whether the supporters Donald Trump betrays actually give a damn. There is some suggestion they might, but it's still unclear because the evidence is anecdotal, like the woman who lost her house to a crooked bank when the economy fell apart and is utterly aghast that the real estate developer she elected to denounce the real estate swindling banks should appoint the real estate swindler she so loathes as Secretary of Treasury.

You couldn't write this shit as comedy. But what are we going to be seeing in 2018? Or 2020? When the entrenched corruption is only bulwarked, and the only bit of change left to claim is the constant assault against civil rights progress in the United States, it will be evident why these people are perfectly sanguine being tools for international interests.

When I was a kid, we were supposed to chant, "USA!" and, "We're number one!" and shit like that. And now, apparently, what remains of that traditionalism―remember, these are descended ideologically from the anti-communist, anti-Soviet politics of the Cold War―is just fine with being played by the Russians. American conservatism has always been a lie.

 

"enemies"
define please

 

People who are actively and intentionally attempting to harm the American people, as a nation. Such as Putin.

That's why it might be possible to actually do.

We might even see the Republicans launching the endeavor.