Scientists and believe beyond ourself

Discussion in 'Religion' started by timojin, Apr 27, 2016.

  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Biochemistry is material in essence.
    Life is made of matter (and energy.)
    If you believe that, that's fine. There is no evidence that they do (as a separate supernatural entity.)
     
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  3. river Valued Senior Member

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    Yet goes beyond just being " material " . This chemistry leads to " thought " .
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Thought is material as well; we can analyze thought and show the chemical and electrical changes in the brain that manifests thought.
     
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  7. river Valued Senior Member

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    Where though is the mind ?
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    The mind is the term we use to refer to the higher functions of the brain. So it's in the brain if you want a geographic location.
     
  9. river Valued Senior Member

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    Hence the mind .
     
  10. river Valued Senior Member

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    Where is the mind , in brain ? Specifically ?
     
  11. H.sapiens Registered Member

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    A series of unsupported, nonevidenced claims.
    There is only the brain, there is no "mind" save as a conversational convenience.
     
  12. river Valued Senior Member

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    Of course I disagree .

    There is huge evidence for the Soul to exist after death .
     
  13. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    The mind is an emergent feature of the brain. Parts of it exist in many places; what we refer to as "the mind" has a lot of parts. The mind's reaction to danger, and feelings of peace and calm? Brain stem and cerebellum. Fear and caution? Amygdala. Art appreciation? Neocortex.

    Note that due to the amazing abilities of neurons to be plastic, the above are not always centered in those areas; people without cerebellums, for example, can live relatively normal lives because other parts of the brain can take over (partially) for missing, damaged or poorly wired sections.
     
  14. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    No there isn't.
     
  15. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Soul is life. You chop of the head of a rooster he will fly for a moment , so the soul is there .
     
  16. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    So is ALL the soul in the body of the rooster and none in the head?

    If that is so

    can it be said

    the soul has left the head?

    Also as I recall animals or not supposed to have souls

    When did this snippet of knowledge reverse?

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  17. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    That has nothing to do with the "soul"...
    http://modernfarmer.com/2014/08/heres-chicken-can-live-without-head/

    It's simple biology, nothing more.

     
  18. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    If you shock a dead frog, it will twitch, so obviously a battery contains soul energy. That is why we don't throw dead batteries away, but treat them to a respectful burial.
     
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  19. birch Valued Senior Member

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    well, one thing is clear, you sure don't have a soul and dislike and derisive of even the idea of it. you must be a really ethical person to view lifeforms as objects besides dry as hell.
     
  20. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    I'm derisive of the evidence used to support the idea. The galvanic response of nerves has been known since the early 19th century.
     

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