Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by S.A.M., Mar 9, 2009.
A position refuted IS a position held. How does that escape your acutely razor sharp perception?
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Then atheists petition for the right to life without religion, and against the brainwashing of our children.
Non-stamp collecting doesn't have much relevence, but since religion is such a big part of society, non-religion is a significant phenomenon. It's like the anti-drugs crowd, who advocate that you can have a good happy life without drugs. Atheists just advocate that you can have a good happy life without God.
Its not, unless you have a position of your own. Not believing in UFOs requires a concept of UFOs to precede it. If you don't accept that concept you dont have a position.
Not being a pilot is not a position, being a pilot is.
Thats as silly as joining a book club to protest against reading books. If you don't want to read, don't.
That's valid, but the fact is religious groups encroach on our right to be free from religion, therefore an advocacy group is necessary.
There is no difference between that and the one book reading club.
And stamp collectors encroach on your right to be free of stamps.
But why should they care?
Stamp collectors do not encroach on my right to be free of stamps. Stamp collecting isn't a significant political force.
Thats only because everyone accepts stamps. Wait till an anti-stamp collector advocacy group comes out. The Franks have been a minority so far.
But the question remains. Why should stamp collectors care about what nonstamp collectors think about stamps?
Now you are being silly. Stamp collecting holds few implications about how we live our lives. The Atheist position is not only anti-religion but usually pro-science, pro-rationality, pro-secularism, pro-personal freedom.
They probably don't. Most likely, because stamp collectors don't demand we place stamps above all else, even the law. Stamp collectors don't riot in the streets if their stamps are criticized.
Sorry, atheists don't speak for me.:shrug:
And you as a Muslim, do not speak for us agnostics (or athiests).
Which is why it's pissing me off with you and your 'holier than thou' attitude.
This isn't about stamp collectors or non stamp collectors. It's about atheism, which has fucking nothing to do with stamp collecting.
It is. And besides, Athiesm IS a position.
You don't hear an athiest say 'I'm a non-believer' when you ask them, do you? NO! They say that they are an athiest.
A 'non-pilot' or 'non-stamp collector' really isn't, and you should really come up with some better examples to compare this too. Non stamp collectors and non pilots just aren't cutting it, my dear.
And why should I care for the atheist position?
As a theist, why shouldn't my eyes glaze over when atheists come ranting?
Why should we care for the theist position?
It doesn't matter if you do or not. Theism is not dependent on atheism. Its vice versa.
Apparently it does or you wouldn't have started a thread on it.
As long as theism is going to be recognized, atheism will too.
You can either sit there and whine and bitch about it like you are right now, or you can do the best thing and STFU and just let it be.
Please try and follow your own narrative if you can.
So, I'm saying that religion holds implications about how everyone lives our lives. Doesn't religion hold any implications about how you live your life? I'm sure it does. Therefore your response makes no logical sense.
Take it or leave it, do whatever you want!
Yeah, but I don't need atheists to speak for my religion and what implications it holds for my life.
No, I'm just wondering. Personally, I just find it odd that when atheists sit and whine and bitch I'm supposed to care about it.
Nor do we need theists telling us what we should and shouldn't believe, how we should and shouldn't act.
Trust me, there are a lot of stupid ass laws down here in the back asswards south due to Christianity crap.
Why should people be recognized for something they believe in anymore than somone for what they don't believe in?
Sam, you make no sense when you talk about politics or religion.
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