Should science replace religion?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by wegs, May 7, 2019.

  1. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    I agree

    Unfortunately the future is unknown

    Except for predictions in physics

    Which I would contend are not really predictions but projections of the behaviour of the physics system

    Give scientists (or a group of nurses) a large bunch of newborns to rate relative usefulness how many do you think you would guess correctly at say their age of 20?

    When I was showing mums, who required some tips on baby care, if the baby gave a large burp I would predict the kid would be a politician

    No idea of my success rate

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  3. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    That would include love, respect, pride, etc I assume?
    What value does science grant love do you think?
     
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  5. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    From 1 to infinity, what value would you put on your own life?
    Now ask the same for what value science would put on your life...
     
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  7. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Who is this guy "science" of whom so much is asked?
     
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  8. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    A know everything but hard to get the info out of

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  9. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    I don’t know about that. I’m feeling a little sentimental over what I’ve been learning about entropy.

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    (I posted a thread about it “Entropy in everyday life”)

    But, yea. Science and philosophy can partner together, without the need to brand that connection as a “religion.”
    Religion is sometimes viewed as a tool to control the masses, and in some ways it has done that throughout history. So, it is difficult to view the word itself without relating it to something negative.
     
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  10. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Why is it so hard to understand that science is not an object or entity; it has no physical existence. It has no volition or personality.
    It cannot decide, do or say anything. It's a process of the human mind.
    Philosophy is not a thing with an independent existence and qualities; it cannot decide, do or say anything. It's a process of the human mind.
    So are spirituality, imagination, crime, work, education and art processes of the human mind.
    Concepts and ideas engendered in the human mind are classified by that same mind, as belonging to this or that category - like putting pots in one cupboard and plates in another. But there is no natural or absolute barrier between cupboards; no obstacle to putting a serving bowl in with the casseroles, of aluminum camping dishes in with the pots.
    When creating a social organization, humans can take whatever concepts, ideas, narratives, rules and procedures they want from any category and mix them together in a single institution. The very mind that conceives this new institution can't even tell what parts come from which cupboard: a government can have aspects of various disciplines; it can employ strict mathematical accounting, mythology, social bonding rituals, methodical repression, self-sacrifice, larceny and delusion, all at the same time. So can a church, a corporation, a soccer league or a broadcast medium.
    None of the categories or functions or disciplines can replace any other. No institution can replace another.
    But if an institution no longer serves its intended function, or an intellectual process is no longer useful, it will fade away, like a language nobody speaks.
     
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  11. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    Well, that’s why we’re having the discussion. ^^
     
  12. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    umm.... what ?! but you HAVE to believe in something right !
    oh my poor ego it is suffering under your horrible personal beliefs now i have demanded you conform to my ego.
    how big is my penis !
     
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  13. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Sure, if you have to, nobody's stopping you. Unless you picked the wrong thing to believe in at the wrong time.
    I know a rather unfortunate and quite unprintable joke about how to make it bigger... but isn't that off topic?
     
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    you miss my metaphour
    i thought you would get it.

    my reply is in the adult-child character of patriarchal religious indoctrination of the childs ego as a form of physical materialist command of reality being smashed out as the Neo-narcisst transference reality.
    wound into the psycho-sexual semi misogynist patriarchal overt sexually repressed self association of self actualization as a model of gender conformity.

    making a small joke and a point at the same time, while agreeing with you
     
  15. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    This thread needs a chaperone.

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  16. river

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    Neither should replace the other .
     
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  17. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry. I've only had one beer tonight.
     
  18. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    OK We'll try not to, but it's sometimes hard to tell ourselves apart.
     
  19. river

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    Because we don't think in terms of the Universe as being Alive and energy and matter based .

    All three define our Universe .
     
  20. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Ya, well, that explains it.
     
  21. river

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    No it doesn't , actually .
     
  22. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    As I mentioned a few posts up or pages back...I'm having title regret. I thought ''could'' would have been a more appropriate word than ''should,'' but now I'm not so sure. What would have been a better title? Hmm.
     
  23. river

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    But this thought does , I think .

    Knowledge
     

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