Should you "respect" the elderly?

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  1. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I agree with you that respect should initially be given.

    The bit where you quote yourself however makes no sense. To be considerate has nothing to do with being wise and even less to be with being rich.
     
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  3. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Young on the inside, old on the outside--I just assumed it's the same for everyone.
     
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  5. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    I wasn't objecting, I was stating my position on the matter. I've known some crazy old coots in my time, and now I shave one every day.

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  7. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    To the very young, respect must be given unconditionally, like love, so that they can learn it.
    Between equals, it is exchanged on par, as their actions merit.
    By the old, it's either been accumulated through earning, or is given as alms by those who can afford to be generous.
     
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  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    very difficult when little children suddenly discover the "punching men in the groin" game

    sometimes i have talked through an event with a friend who helped an elderly person even though they felt emotionally repulsed by their own personal issues(everyone has their own issues).
    they knew why they felt pushed to not help, yet helped anyway.
    afterward they felt good to have been able to be helpful and reflected on the intrinsic sense of community support that empathy dictates as a personal want.

    it seems very rare to find someone with a caustic wit sharp & critical yet a drive of community values that is not couched in god-awful religious nonsense & stereo types.

    i dont understand this point
     
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  9. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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  10. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    I wonder who teaches that - besides America's Unfunniest Videos. For damn sure, little children do not "suddenly discover"adult groins.
    [Between equals, it is exchanged on par, as their actions merit.]
    Two peers - children or adults of the same status; neither having any power over the other - may come into a relationship with some base-line respect that they have for all strangers. Once they get to know each other, their respect level will go up or down according to how the other person behaves: whether they keep their word, pull their weight, keep your secret, pay their debts, exhibit the virtues you value.
     
  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    time & experience
    time = opportunity
    Experience = variation of activity
    (if you ever meet a pre-school teacher, ask them to tell you about any kids that go through hitting stages)
    have you ever played the hitting game with a small child ?

    getting punched in the face, eye, leg, arm.. kicked in the shins...
    a small child punching directly straight ahead as they attempt to run away before you can tag/hit them back the groin butt etc is the common reach.
    its just a matter of time unless you have really quick reflexes.

    it is a developmental part of social empathic neural-feedback development.

    i doubt any parent wants a child that is afraid to be hit(afraid to fall over & get back up).
    american litigious culture projects the victimisation on to the victim instead of projecting the benefit onto the experiencer.
    it is a cultural baggage issue you probably have seen in various forms.

    fascist dictatorship(corrupted power & control models of authority) of ideological moral concepts that have no real world cause and effect human constructive process are often bandied about by adults seeking to victimise themselves through their children to find some sense of self affirmation.
     
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  12. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Of course - and for each of those stages, there is an appropriate adult response.
    (hint: hysterical laughter at another person's pain is not one of these)
    NO - that is one of the inappropriate adult responses. The adult who initiates such a game with someone whose head comes up to his waist, without wearing protection, is just getting what he deserves for not having worn protection five years earlier.
     
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  13. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    ... ?

    you have never played the hitting game with a pre teen early teen ?

    sounds like helicopter bubble wrap-parenting. with some personal phobias/dramas ?
    ... the smell of indoctrinated moral panic is quite strong
    must be a tough audience
     
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  14. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    I, too, find it difficult to follow individual words hacked out of different sentences.
    If you've nourished it reasonably well, an early teen ought to be taller than to hit you in the groin by accident. And if he's doing that to an adult on purpose, you better know he's doing worse to his weaker contemporaries: you, sir, are raising a bully.

    And that's why Amerika is so psychologically sound.
     
  15. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    ...
     
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  16. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Imagine if everyone were in need?
     
  17. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Was she attractive?
     
  18. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Love would be better, but too many broken hearts who can't give any.

    Respect is the wrong path.
     
  19. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Any ideas how? *moving consciousness*?
     
  20. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Kurt Vonnegut
     
  21. river

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    Listening is respect .

    Which leads to understanding .

    Which leads to greater respect .
     
  22. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I prefer "Come on darlin a little bit more love and less of the common decency!". But my imagination...
     
  23. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    How so?
     

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