Star Trek Beyond...wait for the dvd

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  1. Oystein Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, so is Plan 9 From Outer Space.

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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Now that's a great movie!
     
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  5. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Along with the first movie and V'GER
    "From hell's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee"
    Khan's final words.
    An inference to Herman Melville's "Moby Dick" and Captain Ahab.
    [Yes, I still have a copy of that book, more then 40 years old.

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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Everybody hates ST:TMP

    I liked it. Real Where No Man Has Gone Before stuff.

    It's just the blue pajamas that do it in.
     
  8. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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  9. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    Frankly these latest Star Trek movies are not in the spirit of original Star Trek, they are extremely violent and are not about exploration. =/ Is sad
     
  10. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Plus the wide-spread use of CGI means you end up with mickey-mouse stuff like riding a classic motorbike around with gas that solidifies in an instant. Turns it all into a cartoon, with no real sense of peril and little emotional involvement with the characters.
    The original films relied as much on the interaction between the characters as the special effects, whereas now, other than the names being the same, it feels too generic, too formulaic, too much action, CGI and ridiculous stories. And for the love of all that is good in sci-if, why do we need to see the Enterprise get destroyed every damn film!! (Or at least it feels that often).

    Maybe I'm getting more discerning in my dotage, but I quite like a modicum more thought in my sci-if these days, not just bright colours, loud explosions, and chaos.
    It would be great if we could have a new series of Star Trek that was actually more cerebral, more realistic and took things seriously. Where a 5-year tour took its toll on the crew, where things didn't always look pristine. Where the newest star base didn't just pop up with 20-million people and look like a dull sterile vision of an urban "paradise".
    Something in the vein of the Battlestar Galactica reboot, but more isolated rather than having a rag-tag fleet of survivors behind you.

    Anyhoo - I always watch the ST films and mostly enjoy them for a while, but I'm always hoping that they'll surprise me with how good they are... and always left feeling disappointed.
    As someone above said, they're just not memorable any more.
     
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  11. river Valued Senior Member

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    Why is the Wrath of Khan memorable ?
     
  12. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    because of emotional rage of Khan.
     
  13. river Valued Senior Member

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    Hmmm....

    So without this " emotional rage " , the ST movie would not otherwise be , " memorable " ? Is that it ?
     
  14. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    its emotions that always got me to watch Star Trek, the different faucets of expression of actors. Notice how many emotions there are in old Star Trek series and the Star Trek movie they are showing now.

    The emotions that they displayed, I shared while watching, these are:

    abandoned

    acceptance

    adoration

    affection

    Aggravated

    agitated

    agressive

    alert

    amazed

    ambitious

    amused

    anger, anger2

    animosity

    annoyed

    anticipation, anticipation2

    anxiousness

    appreciative

    apprehensive

    ardent

    aroused

    ashamed

    astonished

    attraction (sexual)

    attraction (intellectual)

    attraction (spiritual)

    awed

    betrayed

    bewildered

    bitter

    bliss

    blue

    boastful

    bored

    breathless

    bubbly

    calamitous

    calm

    camaraderie

    cautious

    cheerful

    cocky

    cold

    collected

    comfortable

    compassionate

    concerned

    confident

    confused

    contempt

    content

    courageous

    cowardly

    crafty

    cranky

    crazy

    cruelty

    crummy

    crushed

    curious

    cynic

    dark

    dejected

    delighted

    delirious

    denial

    depression

    desire poem



    despair

    determined

    devastated

    disappointed

    discouraged

    disgust

    disheartened

    dismal

    dispirited

    distracted

    distressed

    dopey

    down

    dreadful

    dreary

    eager

    ecstatic

    embarrassed

    emotional-detest

    empathic

    emptiness

    enchanted

    enigmatic

    enlightened

    enraged

    enthralled

    enthusiastic

    envy

    euphoric

    excited

    exhausted

    expectation

    exuberance

    fascinated

    fear

    flabbergasted

    fight-or-flight

    foolish

    frazzled

    frustrated

    fulfillment

    furious

    gay

    giddy

    gleeful

    gloomy

    goofy

    grateful

    gratified

    greedy

    Gray Because a Broken Heart

    grief poem

    grouchy

    grudging

    guilty

    happyhappy2

    hate

    heartbroken

    homesick

    hopeful

    hopeless

    horrified

    hostile

    humiliated





    humored

    hurt

    hyper

    hysterical

    indignation

    infatuation

    infuriated

    inner peace

    innocent

    insanity

    insecure

    insecure

    inspired poem

    interest

    intimidated

    invidious

    irate

    irritability

    irritated

    jaded

    jealousy

    joy

    jubilant

    kind

    lazy

    left out

    liberated

    lively

    loathsome

    lonely

    longing

    love

    lovesick

    loyal

    lust

    mad

    mean

    melancholic

    mellow

    mercy

    merry

    mildness

    miserable

    morbid

    mourning

    needed

    needy

    nervous

    obscene

    obsessed

    offended

    optimistic

    outraged

    overwhelmed

    pacified

    pain

    panicky

    paranoia

    passion

    pathetic

    peaceful

    perturbation



    pessimistic

    petrified

    pity

    playful

    pleased

    pleasure

    possessive

    pride

    provoked

    proud

    puzzled

    rage

    regretful

    relief

    remorse

    resentment

    resignation

    resolved

    re

    sadness

    satisfied

    scared

    Schadenfreudesong about Schadenfreude

    scorn

    selfish

    sensual

    sensitive

    sexy

    shame

    sheepish

    shocked

    shy

    sincerity

    solemn

    somber

    sorrow

    sorry

    spirited

    stressedstressed2

    strong

    submissive

    superior

    surprised

    sweet

    sympathetic

    temperamental

    tense

    terrified

    threatened

    thrilled

    tired

    tranquil

    troubled

    trust

    tormented

    uncertainty

    uneasiness

    unhappy

    upset

    vengeful

    vicious

    warm

    weary

    worn-out

    worried

    worthless

    wrathful

    yearning

    zesty

    .... and what does Star Trek movie in 2000s have? Lust, Anger, Being puzzled, flirtiness...the emphasis is on VIOLENCE, SEX, DECEITFULNESS.

    Actually tell me the emotions you are experiencing through characters in Star Trek originals vs Star Trek the movie (2000s).
     
  15. river Valued Senior Member

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    Hmmm....

    I watched ST for its advancedments , in Humanity and the starship , Enterprise .

    And more importantly , EXPLORATION .
     
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  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I know Shatner tends to pour out emotions, but I'm not sure I'd go so far as to call him a faucet.

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  17. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    I meant facets, not "faucets" but yest Shatner has been pouring out emotions and thats why I love Star Trek originals.
     
  18. StrangerInAStrangeLa SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Do you like any science fiction?

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  19. StrangerInAStrangeLa SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Is ST:TNG a reboot?

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  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No. It's a spinoff.

    A reboot is a retelling of the original story.
    A spinoff is a new story in the same universe.
     
  21. StrangerInAStrangeLa SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    A spinoff is a new story but does not have to be in the same universe.
    The latest movies are not a retelling of the original story. They are new stories about new characters.

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  22. StrangerInAStrangeLa SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe she was transferred & they never meet again.

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  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Then it isn't a spinoff.

    You asked about ST:TNG. New characters, same universe.
     

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