Discussion in 'Art & Culture' started by Bowser, Aug 13, 2016.
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Now that's a great movie!
Along with the first movie and V'GER
"From hell's heart, I stab at thee... For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee"
Khan's final words.
An inference to Herman Melville's "Moby Dick" and Captain Ahab.
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Everybody hates ST:TMP
I liked it. Real Where No Man Has Gone Before stuff.
It's just the blue pajamas that do it in.
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Frankly these latest Star Trek movies are not in the spirit of original Star Trek, they are extremely violent and are not about exploration. =/ Is sad
Plus the wide-spread use of CGI means you end up with mickey-mouse stuff like riding a classic motorbike around with gas that solidifies in an instant. Turns it all into a cartoon, with no real sense of peril and little emotional involvement with the characters.
The original films relied as much on the interaction between the characters as the special effects, whereas now, other than the names being the same, it feels too generic, too formulaic, too much action, CGI and ridiculous stories. And for the love of all that is good in sci-if, why do we need to see the Enterprise get destroyed every damn film!! (Or at least it feels that often).
Maybe I'm getting more discerning in my dotage, but I quite like a modicum more thought in my sci-if these days, not just bright colours, loud explosions, and chaos.
It would be great if we could have a new series of Star Trek that was actually more cerebral, more realistic and took things seriously. Where a 5-year tour took its toll on the crew, where things didn't always look pristine. Where the newest star base didn't just pop up with 20-million people and look like a dull sterile vision of an urban "paradise".
Something in the vein of the Battlestar Galactica reboot, but more isolated rather than having a rag-tag fleet of survivors behind you.
Anyhoo - I always watch the ST films and mostly enjoy them for a while, but I'm always hoping that they'll surprise me with how good they are... and always left feeling disappointed.
As someone above said, they're just not memorable any more.
Why is the Wrath of Khan memorable ?
because of emotional rage of Khan.
So without this " emotional rage " , the ST movie would not otherwise be , " memorable " ? Is that it ?
its emotions that always got me to watch Star Trek, the different faucets of expression of actors. Notice how many emotions there are in old Star Trek series and the Star Trek movie they are showing now.
The emotions that they displayed, I shared while watching, these are:
Gray Because a Broken Heart
Schadenfreudesong about Schadenfreude
.... and what does Star Trek movie in 2000s have? Lust, Anger, Being puzzled, flirtiness...the emphasis is on VIOLENCE, SEX, DECEITFULNESS.
Actually tell me the emotions you are experiencing through characters in Star Trek originals vs Star Trek the movie (2000s).
I watched ST for its advancedments , in Humanity and the starship , Enterprise .
And more importantly , EXPLORATION .
I know Shatner tends to pour out emotions, but I'm not sure I'd go so far as to call him a faucet. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I meant facets, not "faucets" but yest Shatner has been pouring out emotions and thats why I love Star Trek originals.
Do you like any science fiction?
Is ST:TNG a reboot?
No. It's a spinoff.
A reboot is a retelling of the original story.
A spinoff is a new story in the same universe.
A spinoff is a new story but does not have to be in the same universe.
The latest movies are not a retelling of the original story. They are new stories about new characters.
Maybe she was transferred & they never meet again.
Then it isn't a spinoff.
You asked about ST:TNG. New characters, same universe.
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