Suicides are up this year, but why?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Syzygys, Jul 16, 2012.

  1. pluto2 Registered Senior Member

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    I think that suicide rates have a lot to do with the extreme income and wealth inequality but also because of poor access to quality healthcare.

    I think that good health is almost everything in life.

    When you are very sick or you have legal problems then all the doors in life immediately shut down in your face.

    Because when you're very healthy (and have no criminal record) you have no problem working long hours at a dream job and earning very good money for yourself.

    But with the current corrupt healthcare system it's no wonder that so many sick people feel like they are completely trapped and have no way to go forward in life.

    So very sick people are eventually forced to resign and commit suicide.
     
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  3. CptBork Robbing the Shalebridge Cradle Valued Senior Member

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    Not trying to be a dick here, but this thread is from 2012. In 2019 the problem isn't increased suicides and lazy entitled millenials, it's a plague of necromancy threatening the very fabric of civilization.
     
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    what do you mean by the use of this word ? "Necromancy"
    are you referring to Religion in general and/or specific parts of some religions ?

    "i have a bob, is there anyone in this 500 person audience who knows someone called bob?"
     
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  7. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i tend to agree with you on a cause and effect level like driving a car and running over someone.

    however, the over all violent nature of a society mixed in with its cultural doctrine of directly not caring about others in the community translate to a culture that simply tells everyone by example and culture that they do not care about others and that others do not care about them.
    it is a little ironic and somewhat of a dead give-a-away when you look at how many charity organizations are in the USA and yet so little charity goes on.

    Capitalism IS the moral Culture and all Capitalism cares about is profit & money and who has the most.

    people whom set up access to poor quality health care often do that to be able to steal money and lie about providing real health care.
    (from a political leadership position)

    examples in the ussr(many of the old soviet block countrys) china & India, Bangladesh, Philippines , Malaysia where you need to pay bribes to access the free public system is a good example of where culture defines a different reality from the supposed economic model and ideological laws.

    suicide in the usa is at a rate that exceeds the governments ability to conceptualize.
    they are completely useless(are are knowingly projecting and creating and maintaining that uselessness deliberately).

    instead of creating more mental health medical services they are blaming and suing pharmcos to line their own political pockets for the next election and try and win votes.
    (while pretending to inflict their own moral capitalism on capitalism while not changing capitalism)
    why are they not suing gun manufacturers at the same time ?

    divide and conquer ...
    that is what they are doing
    they want al the power, they want all the money, but they say they are incapable of doing anything to help it.
    but they are going to sue companys for billions and keep all the money and profit from that suing for themselves.

    in the usa every day
    55 people commit suicide with a gun(and thats only the suicides with a gun)
    roughly 120 people die every day from opioid over dose. many of those are suicide

    but if the government can try and pretend all the opioid over doses are by accident then they can make the suicide statistics go away and avoid the nasty reality of what part guns are playing in suicides.

    it is extremely terrible nasty morals and ideologies.

    which in turn is a self effacing reality of making culture even less caring
    and even less investment into mental health services
    meanwhile making people kings of government won suing which makes them king makers and so they get even more power.

    buzzards circling calling themselves angels and pretending to care for the sick.

    when all the little hitlers & political snake oil sales companys have finished adding Zeros to the suing numbers to win news media coverage for their personal media expose'
    will there be free drug rehab clinics in all majour citys where an addict can simply walk in and get treatment without needing to rob a bank to pay for it ?

    not likely
    that was never their intention to deliver health care.

    "oh but we have a 50 year plan we will be rolling out with all the the ... most of the... some of the money we win... which we will then be able to appoint our own great grand children as public tax paid upper class officials to lord it over the poor horrible people and we would have solved our problem"

    "our problem?"
    "we mean your problem"
    "but im not an addict!" o well you want us to solve it dont you!"
    does it matter whos problem is being solved ?!
    why are you trying to stop us from solving the problem ?!

    its just a game to them
    a game to get money and power.
     
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  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    finally they can pretend their hands have become untied ...
    the church group are being told to look at whom they are pointing at and they are being told they are the devil
    now the church group just needs to mob them and protest while the organizers run around and steal the family silver out the back door when they are on the front porch trying to put out the fires being created on their front lawn

    and its all very morally ok

    because car manufacturers are not being sued for people dying from car accidents...

    and the government is not being sued for lack of providing civil care..(oh but they are not supposed to?)
    and x government leaders are not being sued for not providing solutions...
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/20/health/suicide-rates-nchs-study/index.html

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  10. pluto2 Registered Senior Member

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    I think that not being able to get any kind of sex and reciprocal affection from pretty young girls can also lead to the high male suicide rates.

    Many young males in high school commit suicide because they have trouble getting affection from the girls and also add the fact that there is bullying, mockery and shaming of young males who cannot get laid. This kind of abuse is especially occurring in high school.

    In my opinion there is really not much reason for being alive if you are ugly and will be sex-deprived all your life and when all the pretty young girls consider you as ugly then there really not much point for you to be alive in this world in my opinion.
     
  11. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    In my opinion you are an idiot.

    You have two basic choices; you could find a good woman that you are attracted to or whine on the internet that super models won't date you. I guess whining on this forum is easier than getting off your ass and doing something.

    You are 'sex deprived' by your own choice.

    You talk about being ugly, well I have no idea what you look like, but your attitude is about as ugly as I can imagine, why would anyone want be around you, with your attitude?

    I guarantee you that there are untold millions of women that you would be attracted to and they would be attracted to you. I also guarantee that sitting around whining that there are no models that will date you and that life is horrible will keep you from finding that partner.

    Finally, I will let you in on a little secret, it is WAY more important to have a good woman partner than a pretty woman partner.

    OK, one more secret: happiness is a choice. I know you probably don't believe that but I have been around for awhile and I know it is true.
     
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  12. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    This is rubbish. Plenty of people do not start an active sex life until after leaving school - and I suspect they are the lucky ones.

    Stop whining and get a grip.
     
  13. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Some new stuff (for those not alert, as seen above)
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/26/health/life-expectancy-rate-usa.html

    Mind: A lot of deaths from "lifestyle choices" and "high risk behavior" and so forth (including some diseases) are basically or essentially suicides and/or represent a strong influence of depression and the like.
    e.g
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2756159
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2756187
    As noted many times here: most graphs of known measures of human wellbeing or known factors influencing same in America show a worrisome inflection - a bad-direction change in the second derivative of the data-fitted curve - somewhere in the decade 1978 - 1989. Today's midlife adults (25 - 64 as noted) - are the first to have been raised from childhood in an America subject to those trends.
     
  14. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Blaming someone else for your despair is 99% of the problem.
     
  15. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    pluto2
    There is an old wisdom by who knows who,
    "It is only when you take responsibility for your suffering that you can learn to master it and be empowered by it"
    Blaming others only leads to a loss of self empowerment, and giving your power away to someone else in extreme cases leads to suicide or suicidal thoughts, murder suicide ( mass shootings etc).
    Unrequited love, desire, lust are all challenges we humans have to learn to master.
     

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