The Mathematical Metaphysics

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  1. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    It makes sense to call the Theory of relativity and the Theory of quantum mechanics Mathematical Metaphysics?

    Literally these theories are beyond Physics.
     
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  3. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    No.
    Why on Earth would you think that?
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I guess in the same way 1+1=2 is "beyond" math.

    - you know ... if your definition of "beyond" is "one of the foundational pillars of".

    Which is kind of the opposite of what the rest of us mean by "beyond".
     
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  7. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    I mean that with Mathematics we can go beyond our sensory experience in the knowledge of nature.
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Except that relativity and QM are intended to be descriptions of the natural, physical world.
    i.e. within physics.
     
  9. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    We realized that.
    Because everyone knows that "Theory of relativity and the Theory of quantum mechanics" actually means "maths" and that "Physics" really means "sensory experience".

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    What sort of drugs are you on?
     
  10. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    You must have a lot of experience in drug abuse
     
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  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    No, but I've read many of your posts.
    I imagine the detachment from reality/ rationality is somewhat similar to drugs.
     
  12. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    I generally don't argue with square-minded people like you.

    You are reported for maintaining hate and discord.

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  13. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    I expect that's far easier than making a valid point.
     
  14. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    Yesterday I saw a video (in Spanish) on YouTube about how Mathematics is the language of Science. I really liked the video. So I came to the conclusion that Mathematics applied to the world of the smallest (Quantum Mechanics) and the world of the fastest (Relativity) is metaphysical. But not in the philosophical sense of this word.
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    "metaphysics refers to the studies of what cannot be reached through objective studies of material reality."
    "Examples of metaphysical concepts are: Being, Existence, Purpose, Universals..."

    Do you think that SR and QM cannot be studied objectively?
     
  16. Asexperia Valued Senior Member

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    Of course, but with mathematical models. We cannot travel at the speed of light, nor we can see particles directly.
     
  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    We certainly have relativistic velocities and masses within our realm of direct measurement.
    Got a phone with GPS? It relies on relativity.

    Yes we can.

    Strontium atom visible to the naked eye:
    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...tom-photograph-long-exposure-competition-spd/

    Molecule undergoing a chemical reaction:
    https://phys.org/news/2013-05-first-ever-high-resolution-images-molecule-reforms.html
     

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