The mathematics of artificial intelligence.

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  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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  3. river

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    Other than statistics , what does matter ?
     
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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Theoretical mathematics, which may be predictive of universal mathematical functions.
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    That was not the question. The question was what is mathematics. There is an entire branch of math (arguably, the lion's share) that is entirely abstract.

    The question of justifying whether is matters (and to whom) is a different animal. That becomes a matter of whether you think it matters, as compared to those who make a living from it, and those to pay them to make a living from it.

    Granted, it is certainly true that the more we learn due to abstract mathematics, the more we find we can apply it to the real world, but that is not at all the same thing as saying mathematics is applied math. The abstract math comes first; it may lead to applications.
     
  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Mathematics predicted the existence of the Higgs boson. Not a useless discovery. It warranted a Nobel prize.
     
  9. river

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    Wrong

    The understanding of material particles lead to the prediction of the Higgs boson .
     
  10. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, lets just throw a bunch of particle together and presto. C'mon river, it took some 30 years of theoretical and applied mathematics to build the Cern collider which could physically be used to create a Higgs boson. And it did.
     
  11. river

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    Create a Higgs boson .

    Look , I thought that this collider had no chance of discovering a new particle , I was wrong . I have no problem with being wrong , really I don't .

    But , when investigating ZPF ( zero point field ) is it really all that surprising , that the Higgs boson particle was found ?
     
  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I have been proven wrong many times, but IMO, if accompanied by a clear narrative why my assumption was wrong, that only leads to greater understanding. And that is my single aim.
    I am here to learn, not to lecture about things outside of my expertise.

    The main point is that mathematics predicted the existence of a particle, which no one knew even existed.
    This also suggests that a fundamental aspect of the universe is a Higgs field, which is a major part of understanding how particles acquire mass and must travel @ sub-luminal speeds
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_field.
     
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  13. river

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    Which is explained in Zero Point Field .
     
  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Seems then that the Higgs boson is at least part of the proof of this theory.[/quote]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy

    Truly awesome. And maybe pertinent to the other thread "a universe from nothing"
     
  15. river

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-point_energy

    Truly awesome. And maybe pertinent to the other thread "a universe from nothing"[/QUOTE]

    To your last statement , it is pertinent .
     
  16. Counter Registered Senior Member

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    I agree. Some mathematical structures are without formula.

    246
    123

    t×2

    14653
    12345

    ?
     
  17. river

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    Sooo....?
     
  18. Counter Registered Senior Member

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    Everything is without possibility.

    A program has been written to test such random typings:

    [Sequence]

    1 <=a <=sequencelength
    B×1×2×3×4

    If b=a then end
     
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  19. river

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    Why does this make sense to you ?
     
  20. Counter Registered Senior Member

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    Why doesn't it to you? ☺
     
  21. river

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    Why does it to you ?
     
  22. Counter Registered Senior Member

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    • Please do not post nonsense to sciforums.
    +=1,×=2,-=3,÷=4.

    1×2×3×4=24.

    Every possible combination. If it isn't listed there, it doesn't exist. One problem solved in such a way is the division by zero (+1÷+1)-1.
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I am not expert in either advanced mathematics or computer language, but it seems that the example is not a division by zero, but yields an answer which = 0 ?
     

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