The mechanism of the vertical circulation of the waters of the oceans

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    The reason for the formation of hydrogen sulfide in the Black Sea.
    Institute of Oceanology, RAS. https://vk.com/ioran

    Mixing the wind, they enrich water with oxygen only to a depth of several tens of meters of the surface of the seas and oceans, while cyclonic gyres deliver oxygen-rich water to a depth of more than 10 km. (Mariana Trench).

    How does this happen?
    The waters of the lakes, seas and oceans of the northern hemisphere rotate counterclockwise, and the waters of the southern hemisphere rotate clockwise, forming cyclonic gyres. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_gyre

    As is well known, everything that rotates, including gyres, has the property of a gyroscope to maintain the vertical position of the axis in space, regardless of the rotation of the Earth.

    If you look at the Earth from the side of the Sun, the gyres revolving with the Earth turn over, due to which the gyres precess, resulting in vertical movement of oceanic waters. http://goo.gl/AM5g1s

    The presented theory can be easily verified by relating the oxygen content,? With the rotation speed of the cycle.
    Based on the map of the depths and currents of the seas and oceans.
    The higher the flow rate, the greater the oxygen content and the lower the hydrogen sulfide content.

    List of low oxygen seas.
    Black Sea, eastern Mediterranean, Gulf of Mexico, Norway fjords.
    As we see, gyres are involved not only in the horizontal circulation of the waters of the seas and oceans, but also in the vertical.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_zone_(ecology)
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ocean-dead-zones/

    The coefficient of oxygen content can be expressed mathematically by the following formula O = V / G
    V - rotation speed, km / h.
    G - depth of the reservoir, km.
    Black Sea 0.2 / 1200 = 0.00016.
    Sea of Okhotsk 1/800 = 0.0012.

    Vertical movement of ocean waters can be modeled using simple experience.
    For this, a half-filled vessel with a rotating liquid (bucket, tumbler, mixer) must be rotated around itself (in orbit).
    If the liquid in the bucket rotates to the right, then the bucket around itself (in orbit) must be rotated to the left. http://bourabai.ru/articles/black_sea.htm

    The vertical and horizontal circulation is a vital fundamental law of nature, without which life in the ocean would be impossible.
    During the vertical and horizontal circulation, there are also non-vital side effects of nature: ebb and flow, seasonal sea level rise, killer waves.
    The speed of sea currents in real time.
    http://portal.esimo.ru/portal https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov
    http://fermi.jhuapl.edu/sat_ocean.html
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    Seasonal increase in the level of waters of the seas and oceans.
    Geofak SPSU. https://vk.com/club39553

    The waters of the lakes, seas and oceans of the northern hemisphere rotate counterclockwise, and the waters of the southern hemisphere rotate clockwise, forming cyclonic gyres.
    The main cause of rotation of gyres are local winds, flowing into the seas and oceans of the river and the deflecting force of Coriolis.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_gyre

    And the higher the speed of the winds, the higher the rotational speed of the gyres and, as a result, the higher the centrifugal force of the gyres, due to which the water level of the seas and oceans rises.
    And the lower the rotational speed of the gyres, the lower the level of water, seas and oceans.

    The speed of currents along the perimeter of the seas and oceans is not the same everywhere and depends on the depth of the coast.
    In the shallow part of the seas and oceans, the flow moves fast, and in the deep water part of the seas and oceans, the flow moves slowly ..

    Seasonal increase in the water level is observed not along the entire coast of the seas and oceans, but only on those coasts where a high angular velocity of currents and, as a result, a high centrifugal force of water. (Centrifugal force F = mv2 / r).
    On straight coasts where currents do not have an angular velocity, the water level does not rise.

    The waters of the Gulf of Finland rotate counterclockwise, forming a cycle in the form of an ellipse.
    And when the seasonal south-westerly winds spin the cycle to 5 km / h, the centrifugal force of the cycle increases, so that on the east coast of the Gulf of Finland the water level rises to 30 cm.
    A similar pattern of seasonal increase in water levels is observed in all lakes, seas and oceans.

    The average depth of the Gulf of Finland is about 50 meters, on the east coast is about 5 meters, in the west of the bay it is about 100 meters, for this reason the linear and angular velocity of the currents on the east coast of the Gulf of Finland are much higher (as much as the depth of the coast increases current velocity).

    In the Gulf of Finland, the seasonal increase in the water level has two peaks: in August – September and in December – January and in time they coincide with the season of southwesterly winds.
    The speed of the current in the Gulf of Finland reaches from 2 to 17 km / hour, and the maximum speed of the current on Earth reaches 30 km / hour, the wind speed is more than 100 km / hour.
    http://goo.gl/eYVTo6
    http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/09.html

    The waters of the North Sea rotate counterclockwise, forming a huge circulation.
    And when seasonal northwestern storm winds unleash the gyre (up to 20 km / h on the southern coast), the centrifugal force of the gyre increases, so that on the southern coast of the North Sea the level rises to 5 meters.
    (Storm surge 2.5 meters, centrifugal surge 2.5 meters).
    https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:North_Sea_Currents.svg
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea_flood_of_1953

    The waters of the Caspian Sea rotate counterclockwise, forming a circulation in the form of an ellipse.
    And when the seasonal winds and the flood river Volga unleash the gyre, the centrifugal power of the gyre increases, so that on the northern coast of the Caspian Sea the water level rises to 1 meter.

    The average depth of the Caspian Sea is about 200 meters, on the north coast about 5 meters, on the south coast - about 500m.
    Due to this, in the north of the Caspian the speed of the current increases from 1 to 10 km / h.
    In the Caspian Sea, the peak of the seasonal increase in water levels is observed in June-August and coincides in time with the season of winds and high water of the Volga River.
    During a drought over the Volga River basin, the level of the Caspian Sea does not rise.
    http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/06.png
    http://goo.gl/47tXq2

    In the Bay of Bengal in the season of monsoon winds, the speed of the cycle increases to 10 km / h, so that the seasonal increase in water levels reaches 1.2 meters.

    Seasonal increase in the level of the Black Sea (up to 40 cm) is most pronounced in the southeastern part of the sea, where in summer the angular velocity of the currents reaches its maximum value.
    http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/07.html

    The assumption that the cause of the seasonal increase in the water level can be the pressure of the atmosphere, the flow of the rivers, the temperature difference and the salinity of the water do not hold water, these factors may raise the water level by several cm, but not more.
    The presented theory can be easily verified by relating the velocity of the currents to the level of the seas and oceans.
    (Based on a map of depths and currents, seas and oceans).
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annual_cycle_of_sea_level_height
    https://research.csiro.au/slrwavescoast/sea-level/sea-level-change/
    http://www.okeanavt.ru/tainiokeana/1066mifosrednemurovne.html
     
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    How is this related to "Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology"?
     
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    The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres.
    Department of Oceanology, MSU. https://vk.com/ocean_msu
    There is a strict pattern - tides are not formed along the entire coast of the seas and oceans, but only on those coasts where a high current velocity and the higher the velocity of the currents, the higher the amplitude of the tidal wave.
    On those coasts where currents do not have high speed, tides are not formed.
    The waters of the lakes, seas and oceans of the northern hemisphere rotate counterclockwise, and the waters of the southern hemisphere rotate clockwise, forming cyclonic gyres. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_gyre
    As is known, everything that rotates, including the cycles, has the property of a gyroscope, to maintain the vertical position of the axis in space, regardless of the rotation of the Earth.
    If you look at the Earth from the side of the Sun, the gyres, rotating with the Earth, turn over twice a day, thanks to which the gyres precess (sway by 1-2 degrees) and reflect a tidal wave from themselves along the entire perimeter of the gyre.
    https://goo.gl/images/M4SJq8 http://goo.gl/AM5g1s
    The waters of the White Sea rotate counterclockwise, forming a huge gyroscope whirlwind, which precessing reflects the tidal wave along the entire perimeter of the White Sea. A similar pattern of tides is observed in all lakes, seas and oceans.
    White Sea. http://rivermaps.ru/doc/beloe/beloe-3.htm
    http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/22.png
    The waters of the Mediterranean Sea rotate counterclockwise, forming tides 10–15 cm high. In the Gulf of Gabes, off the coast of Tunisia, the height of the tides reaches three meters, and sometimes more, and this is considered one of the mysteries of nature. But at the same time, in the Gulf of Gabes, the cycle rotates, precessing reflecting an additional tidal wave.

    The tidal wave in the Amazon River creates a huge planetary circulation with a diameter of several thousand km., Rotating between South America and North Africa, covering the mouth of the Amazon River.
    The pattern of movement of the tidal wave along the perimeter of the North Atlantic planetary circulation (according to satellite data).
    http://goo.gl/R1hx0H
    The length of the tidal wave depends on the diameter of the rotation.
    The height of the tidal wave depends on the rotation speed of the rotation, the orbital velocity of the Earth and the time of the rotation of the rotation (12 hours).
    A = V1 • V2 / t
    Where, A is the amplitude of the tidal wave (precession angle).
    V1 is the rotation speed of the rotation.
    V2 is the orbital velocity of the Earth.
    t is the time of the rollover of the cycle (12 hours).
    Table of tidal amplitude versus current velocity, on all coasts.
    1 km / h - 1 meter.
    5 km / h - 5 meter.
    10 km / h - 10 meter.
    15 km / h - 15 meter.
    The amplitude of the tides also depends on the size of the gyre, the amount of water under the gyre, the distance from the coast to the gyre, and the direction of the current (north, south, west, east).
    Currents that move along the equator reflect a tidal wave to the north and south, twice a day.
    Currents that move along the meridian reflect from themselves a tidal wave to the west and east, twice a day.
    This can be checked with simple experience, if you rotate the globe around the axis and in orbit, entwined along the equator and the meridian with a polyethylene hose in which the fluid moves.
    The tidal cycle theory can be easily verified by linking the height of the tidal wave with the rotation speed of the gyre.
    From the height of tides, you can determine the speed of the current along the coast, based on the atlas of sea currents.
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    How to understand the fact that the amplitude of the tides in the Bay of Fundy yesterday was 6 meters, and today is 18 meters.
    What changes have occurred in a day, for such a sharp jump?
    We have two possible answers.
    1. For a day, the force of gravity increased three times.
    2. During the day, the rotation speed of the rotation has increased three times.
    Record high tide in the Bay of Fundy - 21.6 meters - occurred only once in the entire history of observations, on the night of 4 to 5 October in 1869 under the influence of the cyclone "Saxby Gale".
    On the night of October 4-5, in 1869, under the influence of the Saxby Gale cyclone, a record rainfall fell over the basins of rivers flowing into the Bay of Fundy (300 mm in one day), due to which waters from the Bay of Fundy poured into the Bay of Maine and increased three times the speed of rotation of the cycle in the Gulf of Maine.
    The real-time animation shows how the waters flowing from the Bay of Fundy to the Bay of Man form a gyre, which precession reflects the tidal wave in the direction of the Bay of Fundy.
    During the flood of the rivers flowing into the Bay of Fundy, the current speed in the north of the Gulf of Maine rises to 20 km / hour, as a result of which the height of the tides reaches 18 meters.
    https://earth.nullschool.net/?fbcli...tangular=-65.27,44.29,3000/loc=-66.405,44.310
    https://images.app.goo.gl/hAE4F7kyMQ1mhcAF9
    Mezen Bay White Sea tide height reaches 10 m.
    https://earth.nullschool.net/?fbcli...ectangular=42.30,67.95,3000/loc=44.019,65.946
    Tides - table. http://www.prilivy.com
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    Waves of the killer. The official group of the Institute of Earth Sciences SFU. https://vk.com/ogbarannikova
    A tidal wave moving across the ocean is called a soliton.
    When a soliton collides with the coastline of the continent, ebbs and flows are formed. In the collision of solitons, two adjacent gyres, a killer wave is formed.
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Killer Waves
    This can be checked by throwing two stones at the same time into the water bath. When a soliton collides, the killer wave that has arisen foams and the larger wave pulls a smaller wave somewhat.
    You can create a half-meter-killer wave with a duration of 0.5 seconds, if two divers simultaneously jump "bombs" into the water from a height of 2 meters, with a distance of 3 meters between them.
    If you throw two pieces of sugar into a glass of tea at the same time and a killer wave forms there.
    The mechanism of the formation of a tidal wave in rivers and killer waves in the oceans is similar, and the height of a tidal wave in a river depends on the speed of the flow of water in a river.
    https://goo.gl/images/Tm13py
    https://goo.gl/images/amdjwj
    The place of the possible stoning of the killer waves can be predicted from the maps of gyres and, accordingly, to lay routes.
    An approaching killer wave or tsunami can be partially neutralized by creating a series of oncoming waves, torpedoes or projectiles.
    If two waves do not collide with each other, then they freely walk on the ocean, and they are called solitons or Rossby waves.
    Three sisters is a collision of a soliton with three storm waves.
    The solitons, reflected around themselves in cycles, colliding with storm waves, create a killer wave and are the main cause of ship wreck.
    And knowing the graph of the propagation of solitons in whirlpools, one should accordingly choose the time and route of movement in the seas and oceans.
    The perimeter of the seas and oceans, I believe, is the most dangerous place for anchorage and movement of ships, especially where there is a high circulation rate.
    The center of the cycle, I believe, is the safest place to wait out bad weather, and in the center of the cycle it is advisable to install a buoy.
    https://goo.gl/images/icF4zf
    The map shows the areas of the most frequent occurrence of killer waves.
    In the North Atlantic, killer waves form mainly along the perimeter of the North Atlantic planetary gyre, as a result of a collision of a tidal wave with storm waves (three sisters).
    http://www.freegrab.net/Tide waves.gif
    The animation shows how in the area of the Bermuda Triangle, as a result of the collision of tidal waves reflected by the North Atlantic and South Atlantic planetary gyres, a killer wave is formed.
    The clock set on the animation shows that the killer waves in the Bermuda Triangle are formed twice a day at 12 and 24 hours.
    Based on the demonstrated animation, you can make a calendar of formation of killer waves not only for future years but also for previous ones.
    During the season of long, eastern winds in the north of the Sea of Okhotsk and floods of the rivers flowing into the Penzhinskaya Bay, the speed of the current in the north of the Sea of Okhotsk increases several times, due to which, in the north of the Sea of Okhotsk, the water level, the amplitude of tides and killer waves increases.
    The current that moves along the northern coast of the Sea of Okhotsk reflects a tidal wave both towards the coast and towards the open sea. (South). https://goo.gl/images/u3AsBQ
    Lottia of the Sea of Okhotsk http://parusa.narod.ru/bib/books/fareast/1406-1.htm
    https://goo.gl/images/u3AsBQ
    All physical processes that occur in the ocean, occur in the atmosphere and in the mantle of the earth.
    "The laws of nature are universal."
    Lao Tzu
     
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    Criticism of the lunar theory of tides.
    Why in the equatorial zone the tidal wave height is three times lower than in temperate zones?
    According to the lunar theory of tides, the earth's crust rises and falls twice a day at a latitude of Moscow with an amplitude of about 20 cm, and the amplitude at the equator exceeds 50 cm (2.5 times more).
    Then why in the equatorial zone the amplitude of the tides ranges from 0 - 6 meters and in temperate zones from 0 - 18 meters?
    The highest tides on Earth are formed in the Bay of Fundy in North America - 18 m, at the mouth of the River Severn in England - 16 m, in the Bay of Mont Saint-Michel in France - 15 m, in the lips of the Sea of Okhotsk, Penzhinskaya and Gizhiginskaya - 13 m , at Cape Nerpinsky in the Mezen Bay - 11 m.
    If it is logical to argue, at the equator the height of the tide should be 35 - 40 meters. Also, if the Bay of Fundy were located at the equator, the height of the tide would be about 45 meters. The whirlwind theory of tides explains this discrepancy by the absence of gyres, cyclones and anticyclones at the equator. For the formation of gyres, cyclones and anticyclones, the deflecting force of Coriolis is necessary. At the equator, the effect of the Coriolis force is minimal and in the temperate zones, maximum. https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a0730201f0f095995e9cc6c7c9875519
    Information on tides in some ports of the world
    https://www.krugosvet.ru/enc/Earth_sciences/geografiya/PRILIVI_I_OTLIVI.html
    The tidal cycle theory can be easily verified by linking the height of the tidal wave with the rotational speed of the gyres.
    List of seas with an average rotational speed of gyres over 0.5 km / h, and an average tidal wave height of more than 5 cm.
    Irish Sea, North Sea, Barents Sea, Baffin Sea, White Sea, Bering Sea, Sea of Okhotsk, Arabian Sea, Sargasovo Sea, Hudson Bay, Bay of Man, Alaska Bay, etc.
    List of seas with an average rotation speed of less than 0.5 km / h and an average tidal wave height of less than 5 cm: the Baltic Sea, Greenland Sea, Black Sea, Sea of Azov, Chukchi Sea, Kara Sea, Laptev Sea, Red Sea, Marmara Sea , Caribbean Sea, Sea of Japan, Gulf of Mexico, etc.
    Note: the height of the tidal wave (soliton) and the amplitude of the ebb and flow are not the same. https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_seas
    Sea of the USSR http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/
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    According to the Static Theory of Tides, the "Moon Tidal Wave" moves from east to west at a speed of 1600 km / hour, skirting the Earth in 24 hours, rubbing the ocean floor and filling only the eastern shores of the continents. But after centuries it was discovered.
    1. What does the "Moon tidal wave" flood both the western and southern and northern shores of the continents?
    2. That the speed of the tidal wave of 1600 km / h is destructive for both the continents and the marine fauna?
    3. What is at the same time across the globe, there are not two tidal humps, but more than a hundred, regardless of the location of the moon?
    4. That abnormally high tides for some reason are formed in semi-closed bays, where there is no direct access to the tidal wave. And in the bays open to a tidal wave, tides or not at all, or are they small?
    Later, a dynamic model of tides was proposed, allowing for a lag (up to 800 km / h) and tidal-hump turns due to friction on the ocean floor. And to show the magnitude of the backlog of the hump, they introduced an application clock (from 0 to 12).
    http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/645fall2003_web.dir/Ellie_Boyce/dynamic.htm
    But the dynamic model of tides does not answer all the questions posed.
    1. While the tidal wave makes one revolution around the Earth, the Moon makes two turns, how is the gravitational connection between the Moon and the tidal hump carried out?
    2. If the applied hour is zero, it means that the friction of the tidal wave against the ocean floor is absent, and the wave speed is 1600 km / h, and if the applied hour is 12, it means that the friction reduced the speed of the tidal wave to 800 km / h .
    Why, in one region there is friction of a tidal wave against the ocean floor, and in another region there isn’t?
    3. In order for the "Moon tidal hump" to exist, the heterogeneity of the gravitational field is necessary, and for this, the Moon must be constantly above the hump, otherwise the hump will collapse?
    4. Why, in some places, there is only one tide per day, where does the second hump go?
    5. If the moon created a tidal hump on the Earth, it would not be an ellipse, but a drop. (Gravitational force is added, not compensated)?
    6. Tidal waves are synchronized with the daily rotation of the earth and are 50 minutes daily behind.
    The moon is not synchronized with tidal waves.
    (The moon is one, and there are hundreds of tidal waves on Earth)?
    7. How does the current of the western winds manage to move from west to east, at a speed of 5 km / h, rubbing the ocean floor, while the tidal wave flows from east to west at a speed of 800km / hour, rubbing the ocean floor?
    8. It is believed that the cause of the second moon hump is the barycenter. And what is the cause of the second solar hump?
    9. Who is the author of the theory of tidal resonance and why is there no such theory on the Internet?
    10. As the tidal forces of the earth stopped the rotation of the moon, if the side of the moon facing the earth is concave, and the reverse side of the moon is convex. Laser altimeters of the Apollo-15, -17 spacecraft showed that the visible side of the moon lies below the average level, and the invisible side lies above it?
    11. In cosmonautics, this is a proven fact that the region of attraction of the moon is limited to 10 thousand kilometers from the surface of the moon,
    artificial satellites of the moon with a radius of the orbit of more than 10 thousand km. break out of orbit?
    12. Why do tidal waves move strictly along the perimeter of lakes, seas and oceans, and not from east to west, following the moon?
    13. Amphidromic point - the center of the cycle
    https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphidromicheskaya_tochka
    is it a point in the ocean, where the amplitude of the tidal wave is zero, does the tidal wave “go around” this point around clockwise or counterclockwise?
    14. Why in the equatorial zone, the amplitude of the tides is three times lower than in temperate zones?
    15. Why are tides on the northern and southern coasts of the seas and oceans three times higher than on the eastern and western coasts, but it should be the other way around?
    16. How to understand the fact that the amplitude of the tides in the Bay of Fundy yesterday was 6 meters, and today is 18 meters.
    What changes have occurred in a day, for such a sharp jump?
    17. How to explain the fact that in the port of Freemantle in southwestern Australia, the tides of the year are significant, and then disappear.
    Once a year, in the delta of the Northern Dvina, during the spring floods, the ebb and flow of the mysteriously disappear for several days, sometimes for a week, and this is considered one of the mysteries of nature?
    18. Why in the White Sea tides are 100 times higher than in the Baltic Sea.
    The height of the tides in the White Sea is 10 meters, and in the Baltic 10 cm?
    19. On which theory did the Chinese tidal calendar of 1100 rely?
     
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    How to understand the fact that the amplitude of the tides in the Bay of Fundy yesterday was 6 meters, and today is 18 meters.
    What changes have occurred in a day, for such a sharp jump?
    We have two possible answers.
    1. For a day, the force of gravity increased three times.
    2. During the day, the rotation speed of the rotation has increased three times.
    Record high tide in the Bay of Fundy - 21.6 meters - occurred only once in the entire history of observations, on the night of 4 to 5 October in 1869 under the influence of the cyclone "Saxby Gale".
    On the night of October 4-5, in 1869, under the influence of the Saxby Gale cyclone, a record rainfall fell over the basins of rivers flowing into the Bay of Fundy (300 mm in one day), due to which waters from the Bay of Fundy poured into the Bay of Maine and increased three times the speed of rotation of the cycle in the Gulf of Maine.
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    The real-time animation shows how the waters flowing from the Bay of Fundy to the Bay of Man form a gyre, which precession reflects the tidal wave in the direction of the Bay of Fundy.
    During the flood of the rivers flowing into the Bay of Fundy, the current speed in the north of the Gulf of Maine rises to 20 km / hour, as a result of which the height of the tides reaches 18 meters.
     
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    3. The alignment of the sun and the moon were different on the two different days, thus resulting in different tidal forces.
     
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