The Purpose of Life

Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by kmguru, Jul 18, 2014.

  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    But God does, and in your case he allowed your death.
    The Bible tells us that God killed people all the time when he was not happy.
    Agreed. If you are part of most organized religions, though, those signs are slammed in your face, over and over - and you are manhandled to the "one true path."
    By some thing, not others.
     
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  3. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    okay
     
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  5. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Death is as natural as rain. Should we be angry because we will eventually die? Should we be grateful that we were alive?

    I'm not in a position to argue the Bible. Fear runs deep in the collective conscious. Is it any wonder that it would be reflected in our scriptures?

    And that might be the problem with most religions--the signs become more important than the destination to which they point. Also, everyone wants to take ownership of God. Wouldn't you agree?

    I've an understanding that it's not my job to manage the Universe.
     
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  7. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    If Physics drops a meteor on your apartment, would it be the divine power of Atheism that saves destiny?
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No.

    Again, these questions. contain a whole host of unspoken assumptions in them. Mostly they revolve around 'as opposed to what?' As in: do things happen differently for theists? If physics dropped a meteor on your house, would God save you? If God dropped a meteor on your house, who would save you then?

    As an atheist, the question makes no sense in the first place. There is no such thing as destiny, no such thing as luck. There is no "saving" from anything. The world is a (relatively) dangerous place, and meteor strikes are way, way down the list - certainly below car accident, cancer and heart attack. This theistic predilection for divine karma seems narcissistic. You stand the same chance as me being the one in the path of that meteor. What is the use in second-guessing whether my Karma is up-to-date enough to warrant being saved?
     
  9. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    My apologies. It was my attempt at humor. Seemed funny at the time

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  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    OK.
    Likewise, I hope I don't sound hostile. This place is so full of agendas it's hard to know when someone is just amiably chatting.

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    To give intelligence to the Universe .
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    ?? No. But if a worker carelessly dropped a wrench on your wife's head, and she died - would you be angry? Or would you say "no matter; she would eventually have died anyway! So no harm done."
    Ah. That is convenient!
    Well, not quite. The problem is that they tell you what to believe. They tell you the signs, AND the destination, AND what's along the way.
    I think the issue here is that you believe that it is someone else's job to manage the universe - and you think they are doing a bang-up job.
     
  13. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    Yep, apparently that's my job.
    And Pol Pot, Stalin and Hitler?
     
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  14. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Would being angry bring her back?

    There are others with a deeper understanding. We could discuss the literal understanding, or try to look deeper for meaning beyond face value.

    Belief isn't enough. Knowing is understanding.

    Of course I do. Would you want the job?
     
  15. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Yes?
     
  16. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    The only way I know of traveling through a wormhole is to be buried in the ground, eaten by worms and move through the wormhole they produce

    The Worm

    By Michael George Woodhams

    The worm it is a funny thing,
    Wriggly, brown and very thin.
    Travelling through the dirt all day,
    Not letting rocks get in the way.
    Settling down at night it seems,
    To dream his little wormy dreams,
    Of farmland fields to wander through,
    And fresh black soil on which to chew.
    But then he wakes when it turns day,
    And all he has to eat is clay

    Wrote this over 20 years ago

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  17. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    Pol Pot, Stalin and Hitler
    These people are God and yet are also atheists??
    Bowser, do you attend any form of ''church''? If yes, has it any form of structure regards people within the group having titles? If yes, do they preach, or would you like to say guide?
    If titles do apply, what are these titles?
     
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  18. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, the patio behind my house. It's quite nice, especially this time of year. I am with no formal religious organization.
     
  19. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    PLEASE don't answer if this is too personal.
    I not very good on these religion things, so using the word ''formal'' I take it you may belong to a non-conformist meeting group? I would then take it you may have titles there. If so, what do these titles represent of that person?
     
  20. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    I don't participate in any groups other than Sciforums and Work.

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  21. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    Ok.Thanks for answering. I have no more questions.

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  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No.
    Now, can you answer the question? If someone was careless and killed your wife, would you be angry?
    You just said you were not in a position to do that.
    Agreed. Unfortunately, most religions preach belief over understanding.
     
  23. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    An accident? I think I would be upset because of my loss, of course.

    We can still make an effort. To start, who is Jesus and what is his point?

    Perhaps understanding comes from different angles? Not certain how it works for everyone. You can hear the same quote for years and still get wrong until someone comes your way and makes it clear. Agreed?
     

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