The Religion forum

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  1. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Anyone who cares enough about religion to be an atheist has a religious bent.



    What do you think, Kwhill?
    Oh, sorry, I forgot, you've resigned.
     
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  3. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    the theists will win this one.
    atheist churches will never get off the ground.
     
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  5. Sorcerer Put a Spell on you Registered Senior Member

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    Churches seldom do.
     
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  7. Bells Staff Member

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    Did you see me say 'ner ner ner ner ner.. I caaaaaaan ban you'?

    Here we have, a member who is doing all he can to evade a ban. It is a member who has made all of our collective lives here and our experience with this forum somewhat painful.

    It's not trolling you are seeing. It is all of us, coming as one as a community, and dancing with joy. This is a rare occurrence.

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  8. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Is that a request for links to your previous behaviour?
     
  9. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Let me get this right. You are dancing with joy because a member who has posted here for many years is permabanned?
     
  10. Bells Staff Member

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    You know, I don't quite know how I feel about his being banned.

    From a moderator's perspective, it is simply one less painful member to have to be polite to and nice to and at times, ignore so much and pretend it is not happening. He had an ability to be someone insightful and generous. Instead, he was who he was. Someone who frustrated the majority and insulted the rest.

    Suffice to say, just because someone has posted here for a long time does not mean he was a valuable contributor to this site. Does content mean nothing?

    Should I look solely at the post count? Or the quality of the posts of a member?

    He has been here for long enough to know better. He deliberately chose not to. That was his choice.

    So how should I feel about his being permabanned? Honestly, I am not mourning his post count. Nor am I mourning the content of his posts.
     
  11. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    I was surprised by some of his later posts, which were not in character.
    I don't agree with permabanning members who have been here longer than a year.
    If they are unwanted, it should show up before that.
    Perhaps a series of 30 day bans would be better than a permaban.
    Also, perhaps, a member should restart a 30 day ban rather than be permabanned for creating a sock puppet.

    In this case, none of these really apply, as he says he asked for himself to be permabanned.
    What a shame he won't be able to make us all "eat crow" as LENR is finally vindicated.
     
  12. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i do.
    he knew EXACTLY what happens to posters that use socks to evade bans.
    i even suggested a method for going about it.
    he persisted AND made the request to james.
    i speculate that james PMed kwill to confirm his decision.
    in any event it was HIS choice.
     
  13. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Who is this "all"?
    Where is this "all"?
     
  14. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Well... to be fair Wynn... he had been a bit of a headache for the moderation staff. He had a fair number of reported posts and even infractions over the years. Kwhi was very adept at "toeing the line" so to speak...
     
  15. Sorcerer Put a Spell on you Registered Senior Member

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    There is another thing that's annoying me about the religion forum at the moment. There's an extended discussion about what Einstein (and they can't even spell his name correctly) did or did not believe in terms of god. I mean, what's the point? His fame came from his scientific work not any religion he might have had, so what does it matter? It can only be that showing that he had some kind of belief in a god somehow validates their stupid superstitions. The mods should probably delete it as being disrespectful to a great man.
     
  16. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    The woman was speaking of "all".

    Who is this all?

    Because even just judging by this thread, her "all" actually means 'some.'

    Unless by her "all" she is specifying a particular group of people here at the forums who are only a subset of the forum membership, but not all of it. If so, she yet needs to specify which group of people this is.
     
  17. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Most people know jack squat about science. Einstein was probably one of the most amiable scientists, ever, and this is what helped to his great fame. Not his scientific work. He was interesting as a person to many people. And his philosophical and religious outlook is what many people can relate to, even as they can't comprehend a paragraph of his scientific writing.
     
  18. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i keep coming back to the conclusion i reached earlier.
    the mod team liked synes vision for the religion forum.
    if that is indeed the case then the only advice i have for syne is carry on and get r done.
     
  19. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    reports and infractions are useless indicators.
    i believe a reported post should be voted on by the mod team.
    a person that makes a sham report on another should be reprimanded somehow.
    i've been given a shitload of infractions over a certain topic.
    i'm positive quite a few of my posts have been reported.
    but then again i don't believe in telepathy over 1000s of miles nor do i believe in an intelligence without substance.
     
  20. Sorcerer Put a Spell on you Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not sure how true that is. Most people have heard of E=MC2 and relativity, even if they don't understand the whole idea. He was only famous for his work, otherwise he would have been as grey as the rest of us. It concerns me that some people on this science forum are using his name to in some way validate their beliefs.
     
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  22. Sorcerer Put a Spell on you Registered Senior Member

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  23. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    As one of the posters in that thread I have made it clear that whether he was a theist, atheist, agnostic, apatheist or anything else should in no way be taken as validity for those beliefs. A preemptive statement, I hope.
    I didn't word it in exactly that way, but hopefully it was taken as such.

    But if you want to highlight where anyone has used his views to validate their beliefs on religion, please do. I'm sure you'd find another poster shortly after saying how flawed that appeal to authority is.

    But it is interesting enough to see what an undoubtedly great mind thought of religion, of god, what his philosophies were, how he reconciled such things etc, that the thread should undoubtedly be left open.
    It is not that we should take his word as some authority in the matter, but it is trying to picture what his thoughts were, and whether or not we, as individuals, see sense in what he thought, what differences we see, and whether there is anything in what he believed, and his arguments for such, that we could perhaps take on board.
    We should listen to his views just as much as anyone else's on this site in such matters. The only difference is that he is not here to post them himself.

    To dismiss his views as irrelevant, pointless etc, is to miss the point of any views of a man outside his field of expertise.

    So we should be fortunate that you are not the moderator in this case.
     

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