The Scientific Proof That God Exists!!

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  1. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
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    After read so many times, I hope some of you get it...
     
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  3. Neutrino_Albatross Legion of Dynamic Discord Registered Senior Member

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    Thats because all scientific theories say that nothing can travel that fast.
     
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  5. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    The masochists who are still reading your posts probably do.
    If they are not distracted by their hairshirts.

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  7. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Neutrino_Albatross,

    Anything physical. So, why the particles come from the vacuum? Maybe there are some kind of non-physical particle (or particles?) that as they lose their speed they turn into physical ones - the subatomic ones.


    Xev,

    I didn't say so many times... did I?

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    Oh well... if it bugs you, here it comes...

    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
    Anything beyond 299,792,458 m/s is not detectable by any known means.
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  8. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Nelson:

    Yeah baby, hurt me again. But first, could you tell me if you had a point?
     
  9. Neutrino_Albatross Legion of Dynamic Discord Registered Senior Member

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    I just had an inspiration!

    If god is traveling fater than c according to general realtivity he must be traveling bakwards in time (realtive to us that is). This would explain god's supposed knowlege of futre events. He not prophesising the future, hes remembering the past (because his past is our future). This also explains why large portions of the bible aren't supported by history. God wrote the thing after the events happened for us but before they happened for him. He was just guessing at things he was likely to do in the future (our past) but changed his mind.

    And i think that post puts me in the crackpot hall of fame.

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  10. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Xev,

    My pleasure...

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    Sure I had! Hurt you!

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    Neutrino_Albatross,

    I don't think God is travelling. I believe that any "particle" that is beyond the speed of light is actually pure energy rather then real "particle". The light proves this very well (as it behaves in a very... interesting way...). Photons are actually waves, not just particles. I believe that as the energy of an entity increases, this entity gradually becomes energy itself instead of remaining as a particle. For this reason, it's probably much harder to detect anything beyond this point, as anything beyond this point must consist of pure energy. By the observations of how the vacuum "creates" particles, it's most probable that the vacuum itself is entirely filled of an energy (or actually it IS an energy) that permeates the whole universe and it's everywhere, and everything comes from it. In thes sense, the vacuum Itself is the ultimate particle, the "Atom" that the Greeks were looking for, and it interestingly has the same "properties" the Bible tells us God has.

    There were two guys... I believe it was Planck and another guy... I can't remember now... Anyways... they studied the vacuum and they beieved that for the photons to travel in the way they do, there must be some sort of "ether" (the word they used) filling the whole space. However, Einstein came along with his theory of relativity and explained the whole phenomenon by the curvature of space-time. However, he had to create a constant in his equations to prevent the whole universe from collapsing (... correct me if I'm wrong...). This leaded to a big mistake on later theories. Now, after further and closer observations, it seems that the scientists are bringing the concept of "ether that fills the whole space" again.

    If you know what I'm talking about (this whole "ether" thing) please provide me a link. I read this a long time ago and I need to read it again...
     
  11. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Nice to see you back, Nelson.
     
  12. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Nice to see ya again too...
    An too bug you again...

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    welcome committee runs away when they see who comes out of the plane

    Avatar says: hi
     
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  17. axonio98 Banned Banned

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    If nothing can go faster than that, we don´t need to make any detection. You can repeat this argument as many times you want, maybe people will think that God exists beyond the speed of light. By the away, in relation to God we are also beyond the speed of light, do you think he can detect us?
     
  18. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    axonio98,

    Did you read my explanation that there IS "something" beyond it?

    We are below the speed of light. The detection can be made from there to here, but can't be made from here to there. It's written in the scriptures...: 1 Corinthians 13:12
     
  19. On Radioactive Waves lost in the continuum Registered Senior Member

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    you can always find a way to make ambiguously ambiguous staments true.

    observe:


    sometimes things happen for different reasons


    if i have more than somthing i have somthing plus some more

    where here was there is not where there was here







    see how easy it is to make a statment thats always true? or so confusing that it cant be logically interpretted?
     
  20. inspector Registered Senior Member

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    Would anyone agree that Isaac Newton was an intelligent and creative scientist?
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    'This most beautiful system [The Universe] could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being.'

    ~ Sir Isaac Newton ~

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  21. axonio98 Banned Banned

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    If God want's to be undetectable at the speed of a snail, do you think he can do that?

    If you travel faster than the speed of light, everything else passes trough you at the same speed. So, if God exists beyond the speed of ligh, in relation to him, so do we. The questiom remains. Can God detect us?
     
  22. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    ....seeker,

    I'll probably regret asking but, if you can't detect anything beyond the speed of light then how do you know that there is something there? Since you say you can't detect it then you can't know it is there.
     
  23. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    Inspector,

    And Einstein was an atheist.

    What is your point. That a scientist might be religious or might not?
     

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