Things That Are Not There

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  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    All which you conjure up in paragraph two is not seeing.

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    I am fond of that story. As George Carling observed so acutely.

    I believe that the concept of *seeing* has many applications in nature. Does a sunflower see the sun, it sure does sense it. How does a colorblind cuttlefish adopt the shape and color of its hiding place?

    I just wanted to go a little deeper than the optical sciences and the ability to see visible light in extra-ordinary detail. Vision is one of the oldest survival mechanisms and extremely well developed in many species in one way or another.

    But abstract imagining is also a form of seeing something that it is not there. Yet we can visualize it and even express it as in the Arts.
     
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    George Carlin you mean .

    Sure , but not now Write4U .
     
  9. Michael 345 Registered Senior Member

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    No

    Don't know. If you know please enlighten me. I might be wrong but you gave something away with the word 'colourblind'

    Not it is not a form of seeing

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    Right, so how does it know what color scheme to adopt? It seems then that there are several ways of *seeing* or *sensing*

    You are only addressing the narrow definition of *observing through eyes*, but as shown by Webster, the definition of *seeing* includes a much greater range of definitions.

    The biggest problem always seems to be the difference between subjective human interpretation of data by relativistic observation and objective scientific mathematical potentials and functions, which sometimes may seem prima facie counter-intuitive..
     
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    Sensing is not seeing. Seeing is one of the senses.

    You seem to be going down the path
    • Seeing is a sense
    • Feeling hot is a sense
    • Feeling hot is seeing

    Seeing though the eyes is the only definition I am interested in as it the relevant definition.

    Not interested in 'seeing someone to the door'

    Not interested when on the toilet doing number 2 my sphincter feels hot 'sensing' the curry had last night. That is not seeing and it's not in Webster.

    Blooup.

    Pardon me.

    Not sure if that was the indigestible above or the curry.

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