UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by Magical Realist, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Imagination outstrips space afterall is the preeminently foldable medium every single cm

    Aliens are not in the least improbable, they are out there

    How come you appear to be under the impression that Give them about a thousand years of evolution before us maybe they have developed some way of teleporting thru wormholes ?

    Me thinks thou has anthropomorphised Mr Bluegreen algae slime mould to much when it has not even figured out it is Mr Bluegreen algae slime mould

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  3. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I don’t dismiss the possibility that aliens might exist, just that they’re visiting Earth. Maybe because it seems strange that they haven’t communicated with us by now, are have tried to harm us? Even a tiny little bee will sting us if we mess with its hive, so to think that aliens are visiting us left and right, with no interest in communicating or interacting whatsoever, isn’t believable to me. That’s not my only reason, but one of the reasons.
     
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  5. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    I wouldn't put anything past a highly advanced civilization in what it can achieve in terms of detection of life on other worlds and the means of traveling to them. It's like comparing cavemen to modern men. The evolution of technology makes all sorts of things possible that we couldn't before even conceive of. We're essentially defining aliens by our own standards, which to me is too limiting for them. We have to be prepared for something that seems to us magical or even divine. That's how advanced they may be to us. Reaching some kind of AI singularity/apotheosis may be what is required here.
     
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  7. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I’d still wonder why they wouldn’t want to interact or communicate.
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    astonishingly, I agree.

    It is folly to pretend we can guess either the motives or the capabilities of a hypothetical alien civilization.

    Such a civilisation could be a hundred thousand years ahead of us. Does anyone think that, assuming we survive 100,000 years, we won't be a starfaring race?

    (But alien civilizations are an unrelated topic.)
     
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  9. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Me too. Why the cloak and dagger? Maybe its a little bit of the Prime Directive. But if there's anything to UAPs they've already violated that.
     
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  10. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    I wouldn't put anything against the stubbornness of physics to resist a advanced civilization technology

    Nope you can't do that

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  11. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Moi

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  12. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    How do you see that looking? One hundred thousand years of humans living in the solar system and not venturing beyond the Oort Cloud?
    Where do you think we'll all live?
     
  13. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Most, who are just surviving, on a slum Earth

    Maybe if the Moon and Mars colonies have survived and become semi self sufficient a few will live past the last person on Earth



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  14. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    There are physical limits you have to appreciate, though. Such as the speed of light, meaning that radio waves from earth are at most c.127 LY away (1895 being first EM radio wave sent by humans, albeit rather weak, and possibly not detectable - but let's not assume the capability of such by any aliens). Any detectors further away than that will simply not see us as emitting anything, not because of their lack of technical ability, but because of the fundamental principle of EM waves not travelling faster than the speed of light.
    If they were detecting signs of pollution as evidence of civilisation then that would only really be evident in the past 50 years or so, again limiting how far away aliens would need to be to detect it. Again, the speed of light is a limiting factor here.
    Travelling FTL, sure, whatever floats your boat on that one, but in terms of us being distinct enough to visit in the first instance... that requires observations, which do travel at lightspeed, which limits things somewhat.
     
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  15. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Great. Definitely signs of practicalities appearing

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  16. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    This isn't a particularly good analogy is it?

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    The U.S. lottery is won all the time.
     
  17. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Fair point. Just replace it for the intention: something very unlikely indeed.

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  18. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Haha...just giving you a hard time of course...

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  19. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Someone from 100,000 years in the future would imo see our physics books as Grimm's fairytales.
     
  20. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Grim indeed, you STILL can't do that

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  21. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    So... people will curb their breeding and the population will stabilize - for a hundred thousand years? Have you thought this through?
     
  22. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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  23. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    You missed this from my reply

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    The Borgen project.

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